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 Post subject: Codes for Passenger Stock
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:20 am 
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Many keep asking about the codes used for stock, and we get little bits, well, I found Railway Magazine from April 1954 on Ebay, which has a little article on the Easingwold Railway.
In the magazine there is a full list of codes used.
Theses are the codes used in all reigions by British Railways based broadly on that used by the LNER.

Restarurant/Kitchen cars
First RF
Composite RC
Either Class RU
Third RT
Triplet RTS
Pantry Third RTP
Buffet Car RB
Kitchen Only RK

Sleeping Cars
First Class SLF
First Class (Twin) - Twin SLF
Composite SLC
Composite (Twin) - Twin SLC
Third Class SLT

Saloons
First Class SF
Third Class ST
Invalid Saloon SI

Open Stock
First Class FO
Composite CO
Third Class TO
Third Class Brake BTO
Semi-Open First - Semi FO
Second Class SO
Tourist Stock (Bucket Seats)
Third Open TTO
Brake Third Open TBTO

Corridor Stock
First Class FK
First Class Brake BFK
Second Class SK
Composite CK
Composite Brake BCK
Third Class TK
Third Class Brake BTK

Non Corridor Stock (bogiees)
First Class F
First Class (Lavatory) FL
First Class Brake BF
First Class Brake (Lavatory) BFL
Composite C
Composite (Lavatory) CL
Composite Brake BC
Composite Brake (Lavatory) BCL
Third Class T
Third Class (Lavatory) TL
Third Class Brake BT
Third Class Brake (Lavatory) BTL

Articulated Stock is indicated by the word 'Twin' 'Triple' 'Quad' or 'Quint' according to the number of vehicles in the set, the number being shown when necessary and the letters ART

Post Office Vehicles
Post Office Sorting Van POS
Post Office Tender POT

Brake Vans
4-Wheeled BY
6-Wheeled (without Gangways) BZ
6-Wheeled (With Gangways) BGZ
Bogie (without Gangways) B
Bogie (with Gangways) BG
Pigeon Van (Braked) BP
Milk Van (Brake) BM

Miscellaneous Traffic Vans
Parcels and Motor Van PMV
Horse Box HB
Special Cattle Van SCV
Open Carriage Truck CTO
Covered Carriage Trucks CCT

Hope this helps

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I vote for this topic to be upped to the status of Sticky. Elce it will soon be lost in the back pages of the forum where people won't find it.

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Thanks Mark!

Stephen: Could do, but I'll change the title.

I'm against acquiring too many 'sticky' threads. So down the road I'll include a coach code list when I add coaching rolling stock, and then de-sticky this thread :-)


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'Tourist stock' should probably be followed with 'TSO'

I remember when I used to take note of such things in the 1960s these were some of the commonest stock on the ECML. For a long time I thought it stood for 'Table Second Open' which clearly described what these coaches were.

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Percy Main wrote:
'Tourist stock' should probably be followed with 'TSO'

I remember when I used to take note of such things in the 1960s these were some of the commonest stock on the ECML. For a long time I thought it stood for 'Table Second Open' which clearly described what these coaches were.

Percy


Mark should have probably underlined 'Tourist Stock (Bucket Seats)' as a separate category as a TTO is effectively a TSO.

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Yes it is a little seperate bit under Open, I've highlighted this now!

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What's a sticky? sounds uncomfortable!

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it means it always stays at the top, like the posting rules in other forums.

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Thanks for that-much clearer!

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Very useful indeed 8) but where do Pullmans fit into this?

Is a parlour car an SF? and is the brake second a BTO?

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Hi Caledonian,

No Pullmans had thier own Codes. Generally they were;

Pullman First Kitchen PFK
Pullman Third Kitchen PTK
Pullman First Parlour PFP
Pullman Third Parlour PTP
Pullman First Brake PFB
Pullman Brake Third PBT

The first 'P' stands for Pullman
The second letter the 'F' or 'T' stood for First or Third
The last letter 'K', 'P' or 'B' stands for the coach type Kitchen, Parlour or Brake

I am not 100% sure on the Composites, Bar cars and Observation saloons, but I dare say someone will know :wink:.

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Most kind, thank you for that :D

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 Post subject: Re: Codes for Passenger Stock
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According to Farish (The Ones I have) The P Comes at the end.
FP First Pulman/Parlour
SP Second
FKP First Kitchen
SKP Second Kitchen
BSP Bar Second

But According to this site http://www.forsythe.demon.co.uk/other_p ... k1nums.htm
the P IS first!

Hmmm...

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Mark,

That is most useful.

I have been looking for the meaning of "attach 5 T" in the BR(E) timetable for York in 1953. It clearly means that a particular train was to be reinforced with 5 Third class carriages.

As gas tank wagons were of a similar status to horse boxes, was there a code for them, I wonder?

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 Post subject: Re: Codes for Passenger Stock
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A few others that have come to mind (which I think haven't already been mentioned), possibly-to-definitely only applicable in post-3rd Class period, to varying degrees (sorry, stock isn't my strong-point) :

SLSTP..Sleeper Second (Tourist?) Pantry(?) (Mk.I only?)
SLE......Sleeper, Either class (Mk.III only?)
SLEP....Sleeper, Either Class Pantry (Mk.III only?)
RLO.....Sleeper Reception Car
BSK.....Brake Second Corridor (unsurprisingly)
BFO.....Brake First Open (not sure there were any)
BSO.....Brake Second Open (not sure there were any)
RMB.....Miniature Buffet
RKB.....Kitchen Buffet
RFB.....Buffet First
RBR.....Restaurant Buffet Refurbished
RG.......Griddle Car
RFM.....Restaurant Buffet First (Modular)
FO (T)..First Open, Trolley
TSO (T).Tourist Second Open, Trolley
BSOT...Brake Second Open (micro buffet)
DBSO...Driving Brake Second Open (Mk.IIs, later provided with driving cab for push-pull)

Non-Passenger
GUV.....General Utility Van
TCV.....Tiered Car-carrying Vehicle - [as used for the Motorail service, first from Holloway 'Cattle Dock', later KX 'Milk Yard' (west of Plat.17) : Enclosed vans for cars and low road vans only, employing an interior 2-tier powered raise/lowering deck system ; initially in up position, vehicles driven into lower level, the 2-tier deck formation was then lowered, into the well of the van, allowing another row of vehicles to be driven onto the upper deck.]
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DVT.....Driving Van Trailer
PCV.....Propelling Control Vehicle

HST Unpowered vehicles
TS......Trailer Second
TF......Trailer First
TGS....Trailer Guard Second
TRB....Trailer Buffet First
TRFB... -- ditto -
TRFK...Trailer Kitchen First
TRFM...Trailer Modular Buffet First
TRSB...Trailer Buffet Second

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