James Holden & Stephen D. Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.
Looks more like an NER E to me.
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.
other than info on back of photo, then nothingjohn coffin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:24 pm what evidence is there that the 3rd picture is actually a GER loco in NER coilours?
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Re: James Holden & Stephen D. Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.
I have added a new collection of photos of S.D. Holden F6 (GER Class G69) 2-4-2T
The GER Class G69 was a class of twenty 2-4-2T steam locomotives built by for the Great Eastern Railway by S. D. Holden in 1911–12 following the design of two rebuilt examples of the GER Class M15 designed by James Holden, his father, in 1904. They all passed to the London and North Eastern Railway at the 1923 grouping and received the classification F6.
These locomotives were fitted with 17+1⁄2-by-24-inch (444 mm × 610 mm) cylinders and 5-foot-4-inch (1.626 m) wheels. They were the final development of the GER's radial 2-4-2T) tank locomotive. Being intended for London suburban service, they were built with condensing gear, and Westinghouse air brakes.
All were still in service at the 1923 grouping, the LNER adding 7000 to the numbers of nearly all the ex-Great Eastern locomotives, including the Class G69 locomotives. The LNER added vacuum ejectors to all but one locomotive in 1927; the one exception being fitted in 1929. They also removed the condensing apparatus between 1936 and 1938.
On 1 January 1923 the whole class was allocated to Stratford Engine Shed and were employed on suburban traffic in East London on the lines out of Fenchurch Street and Liverpool Street.
At Nationalisation in 1948, British Railways added 60000 to their LNER numbers. They all continued in service until 1955, when the first was withdrawn; all were gone by May 1958.
Including this photo of
67218 at Epping with a service to Ongar 14th April 1957
https://tinyurl.com/3dn7vnfj
Just 1 photos from G.E.R. era
69 unknown location
https://tinyurl.com/4an3dxst
LNER era photos start here
7003 Stratford 1936
https://tinyurl.com/3rf85ndr
B.R. era photos start here with
67203 Ongar with a service for Epping 9th April 1955
https://tinyurl.com/44rxvrmt
to
67238 unknown location
https://tinyurl.com/bdhv76u6
Neil
https://tinyurl.com/3dn7vnfj
The GER Class G69 was a class of twenty 2-4-2T steam locomotives built by for the Great Eastern Railway by S. D. Holden in 1911–12 following the design of two rebuilt examples of the GER Class M15 designed by James Holden, his father, in 1904. They all passed to the London and North Eastern Railway at the 1923 grouping and received the classification F6.
These locomotives were fitted with 17+1⁄2-by-24-inch (444 mm × 610 mm) cylinders and 5-foot-4-inch (1.626 m) wheels. They were the final development of the GER's radial 2-4-2T) tank locomotive. Being intended for London suburban service, they were built with condensing gear, and Westinghouse air brakes.
All were still in service at the 1923 grouping, the LNER adding 7000 to the numbers of nearly all the ex-Great Eastern locomotives, including the Class G69 locomotives. The LNER added vacuum ejectors to all but one locomotive in 1927; the one exception being fitted in 1929. They also removed the condensing apparatus between 1936 and 1938.
On 1 January 1923 the whole class was allocated to Stratford Engine Shed and were employed on suburban traffic in East London on the lines out of Fenchurch Street and Liverpool Street.
At Nationalisation in 1948, British Railways added 60000 to their LNER numbers. They all continued in service until 1955, when the first was withdrawn; all were gone by May 1958.
Including this photo of
67218 at Epping with a service to Ongar 14th April 1957
https://tinyurl.com/3dn7vnfj
Just 1 photos from G.E.R. era
69 unknown location
https://tinyurl.com/4an3dxst
LNER era photos start here
7003 Stratford 1936
https://tinyurl.com/3rf85ndr
B.R. era photos start here with
67203 Ongar with a service for Epping 9th April 1955
https://tinyurl.com/44rxvrmt
to
67238 unknown location
https://tinyurl.com/bdhv76u6
Neil
https://tinyurl.com/3dn7vnfj
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Re: James Holden & Stephen D. Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.
I have added a new collection of photos of S.D. Holden The S.D. Holden B12 (GER Class S69 / 1500) 4-6-0
This collection features the locos in the G.E.R. & LNER eras
Including this photo of
8570 Norwich 1st January 1934 fitted with ACFI water feed equipment
https://tinyurl.com/3cnz3wyx
Full collection starts herewith
G.E.R. era
1514
https://tinyurl.com/3f6zhckz
LNER era starts here with over 80 photos
1519
https://tinyurl.com/bdpx6thz
Neil
https://tinyurl.com/3cnz3wyx
This collection features the locos in the G.E.R. & LNER eras
Including this photo of
8570 Norwich 1st January 1934 fitted with ACFI water feed equipment
https://tinyurl.com/3cnz3wyx
Full collection starts herewith
G.E.R. era
1514
https://tinyurl.com/3f6zhckz
LNER era starts here with over 80 photos
1519
https://tinyurl.com/bdpx6thz
Neil
https://tinyurl.com/3cnz3wyx
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Re: James Holden & Stephen D. Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.
I have added a new collection of photos of S.D. Holden F7 2-4-2T
The GER Class Y65 was a class of twelve 2-4-2T steam locomotives designed by S. D. Holden and built by the company's Stratford Works in 1909–1910. They all passed to the London and North Eastern Railway at the 1923 grouping and received the classification F7.
These locomotives were fitted with 15-by-22-inch (381 mm × 559 mm) cylinders and 4-foot-10-inch (1.473 m) diameter driving wheels. They were intended to displace the elderly E22 class 0-6-0T locomotives from their light branch line duties, but in the end, the E22s were the preferred locomotives for this work. They were all initially fitted with Westinghouse air brake equipment.
Between 1915 and 1921 four (1303–1305, 1309) were fitted for push-pull working using the compressed air system; these required the fitting of an extra Westinghouse pump to the side of the locomotives. In 1924, 8307 was also push-pull fitted using the mechanical system for use on the Great Central section; no extra pump was needed, but it did gain a vacuum ejector.
All had survived to pass to the LNER in 1923; the first retirement started in 1931 when four were withdrawn.
Three (8301/08/10) were sent to Scotland in 1931–32 and as a result of the move they had their Westinghouse air brake replaced with a steam brake and vacuum ejector.
The locomotives had large cabs, with large spectacle plate front and rear, which earned the nickname "Crystal Palace tanks"; those in Scotland were nicknamed "Tomato houses".
Withdrawals continued from 1938; six locomotives were left in 1942 when they were renumbered 7593–7598 in order to clear the 8300-block for new B1 class locomotives.[2]
Two locomotives lasted long enough to be renumbered in the 1946 scheme; they became the property of British Railways in 1948, but both were withdrawn the same year without receiving their BR number
Full collection starts here with
8301 Galalshiels May 1937
https://tinyurl.com/2s44xz3f
Neil.
The GER Class Y65 was a class of twelve 2-4-2T steam locomotives designed by S. D. Holden and built by the company's Stratford Works in 1909–1910. They all passed to the London and North Eastern Railway at the 1923 grouping and received the classification F7.
These locomotives were fitted with 15-by-22-inch (381 mm × 559 mm) cylinders and 4-foot-10-inch (1.473 m) diameter driving wheels. They were intended to displace the elderly E22 class 0-6-0T locomotives from their light branch line duties, but in the end, the E22s were the preferred locomotives for this work. They were all initially fitted with Westinghouse air brake equipment.
Between 1915 and 1921 four (1303–1305, 1309) were fitted for push-pull working using the compressed air system; these required the fitting of an extra Westinghouse pump to the side of the locomotives. In 1924, 8307 was also push-pull fitted using the mechanical system for use on the Great Central section; no extra pump was needed, but it did gain a vacuum ejector.
All had survived to pass to the LNER in 1923; the first retirement started in 1931 when four were withdrawn.
Three (8301/08/10) were sent to Scotland in 1931–32 and as a result of the move they had their Westinghouse air brake replaced with a steam brake and vacuum ejector.
The locomotives had large cabs, with large spectacle plate front and rear, which earned the nickname "Crystal Palace tanks"; those in Scotland were nicknamed "Tomato houses".
Withdrawals continued from 1938; six locomotives were left in 1942 when they were renumbered 7593–7598 in order to clear the 8300-block for new B1 class locomotives.[2]
Two locomotives lasted long enough to be renumbered in the 1946 scheme; they became the property of British Railways in 1948, but both were withdrawn the same year without receiving their BR number
Full collection starts here with
8301 Galalshiels May 1937
https://tinyurl.com/2s44xz3f
Neil.