Counties served by the LNER?
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Counties served by the LNER?
is there a list of Counties served by the LNER, either through track owned, joint lines ore running rights?
the list below was from looking at the LNER map and comparing it to a map of traditional British counties, it's for a fictitious class I have planned to be named after counties served by the LNER. I've been putting together the list as they're going to be going on the locomotives, hence why they are separated in to England and Scotland in alphabetical order.
so far I have the following:
England:
County of Bedfordshire
County of Berkshire
County of Buckinghamshire
County of Cambridgeshire
County of Cheshire
County of Cumberland
County of Derbyshire
County of Durham
County of Essex
County of Huntingdonshire
County of Lancashire
County of Leicestershire
County of Lincolnshire
County of Middlesex
County of Norfolk
County of Northamptonshire
County of Northumberland
County of Nottinghamshire
County of Oxfordshire
County of Rutland
County of Staffordshire
County of Suffolk
County of Westmorland
County of Wrexham
County of Yorkshire
Scotland:
County of Aberdeenshire
County of Angus
County of Argyllshire
County of Banffshire
County of Berwickshire
County of Clackmannanshire
County of Dunbarton
County of Fife
County of Inverness-shire
County of Kincardine-Shire
County of West Lothian
County of East Lothian
County of Midlothian
County of Morayshire
County of Peeblesshire
County of Perthshire
County of Roxburghshire
County of Selkirkshire
is this list ALL of the counties served by the LNER?
the list below was from looking at the LNER map and comparing it to a map of traditional British counties, it's for a fictitious class I have planned to be named after counties served by the LNER. I've been putting together the list as they're going to be going on the locomotives, hence why they are separated in to England and Scotland in alphabetical order.
so far I have the following:
England:
County of Bedfordshire
County of Berkshire
County of Buckinghamshire
County of Cambridgeshire
County of Cheshire
County of Cumberland
County of Derbyshire
County of Durham
County of Essex
County of Huntingdonshire
County of Lancashire
County of Leicestershire
County of Lincolnshire
County of Middlesex
County of Norfolk
County of Northamptonshire
County of Northumberland
County of Nottinghamshire
County of Oxfordshire
County of Rutland
County of Staffordshire
County of Suffolk
County of Westmorland
County of Wrexham
County of Yorkshire
Scotland:
County of Aberdeenshire
County of Angus
County of Argyllshire
County of Banffshire
County of Berwickshire
County of Clackmannanshire
County of Dunbarton
County of Fife
County of Inverness-shire
County of Kincardine-Shire
County of West Lothian
County of East Lothian
County of Midlothian
County of Morayshire
County of Peeblesshire
County of Perthshire
County of Roxburghshire
County of Selkirkshire
is this list ALL of the counties served by the LNER?
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Re: Counties served by the LNER?
Pedant here.
My home county can be called either "Northamptonshire" or "(The) County of Northampton" but not "County of Northamptonshire" . I think that applies to all shires with names from the county town.
It's interesting to compare your list with the county names given to the D49 "Shires" by the LNER, who did not seem to have a very good grasp of where their lines were...
Oh, and don't forget the W. M. & CQ!
My home county can be called either "Northamptonshire" or "(The) County of Northampton" but not "County of Northamptonshire" . I think that applies to all shires with names from the county town.
It's interesting to compare your list with the county names given to the D49 "Shires" by the LNER, who did not seem to have a very good grasp of where their lines were...
Oh, and don't forget the W. M. & CQ!
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Re: Counties served by the LNER?
1H was 2E wrote:Pedant here.
My home county can be called either "Northamptonshire" or "(The) County of Northampton" but not "County of Northamptonshire" . I think that applies to all shires with names from the county town.
It's interesting to compare your list with the county names given to the D49 "Shires" by the LNER, who did not seem to have a very good grasp of where their lines were...
Oh, and don't forget the W. M. & CQ!
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I completely forgot about the Shires...
and thanks for letting me know about the whole "County of Northampton"
And I'm not familiar with the W. M. & CQ, what areas was that serving in?
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Re: Counties served by the LNER?
Wrexham, Mold & Connahs Quay Railway. Later part of the Great Central Railway
Old Welsh Counties of Flintshire and Denbighshire
Larnarkshire, Stirling & Kinross in Scotland
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Old Welsh Counties of Flintshire and Denbighshire
Larnarkshire, Stirling & Kinross in Scotland
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Re: Counties served by the LNER?
Wot!, No Hertfordshire / County of Hertford ??
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Re: Counties served by the LNER?
Hush! It's a secret, we don't want people too many folk to wot of this blessed spot, this jewel, etc..
'Served by': what is encompassed by that? In terms of freight dispatched in wagons the entire island of Britain, and scheduled services to some nearer parts of continental Europe, certainly as far as Italy. Through coaches, it would be much quicker to list the ceremonial counties not served.
'Served by': what is encompassed by that? In terms of freight dispatched in wagons the entire island of Britain, and scheduled services to some nearer parts of continental Europe, certainly as far as Italy. Through coaches, it would be much quicker to list the ceremonial counties not served.
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Re: Counties served by the LNER?
I recently saw a 1938 photograph of LNER conflats and Drikold containers in Poland.nearer parts of continental Europe, certainly as far as Italy.
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Re: Counties served by the LNER?
It depends on the timeframe but, if during the LNER period, what about those little administrative wrinkles such as the Isle of Ely and Soke of Peterborough? At that time Suffolk was also two counties - East and West. And then there were the Parts of Holland, of Lindsey and of Kesteven and north of them the Ridings of Yorkshire. Some cities and large towns were county boroughs. And so it goes on...
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This upmarket version of Essex, beset by SUVs charging around country lanes with their foglights on, music festivals, garden cities original and not so original and of the long-leased out ancestral home of a certain Lord and his submarine cars...Hatfield Shed wrote:Hush! It's a secret, we don't want people too many folk to wot of this blessed spot, this jewel, etc..
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Re: Counties served by the LNER?
G'day Gents
And then to go completely off the grid, what about the ships and the places they served...............
manna
And then to go completely off the grid, what about the ships and the places they served...............
manna
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Re: Counties served by the LNER?
Warwickshire (e.g. Rugby).
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Re: Counties served by the LNER?
[quote="Nova"]is there a list of Counties served by the LNER, either through track owned, joint lines ore running rights?
the list below was from looking at the LNER map and comparing it to a map of traditional British counties, it's for a fictitious class I have planned to be named after counties served by the LNER. I've been putting together the list as they're going to be going on the locomotives, hence why they are separated in to England and Scotland in alphabetical order.
so far I have the following:
England:
County of Bedfordshire
County of Berkshire
County of Buckinghamshire
County of Cambridgeshire
County of Cheshire
County of Cumberland
County of Derbyshire
County of Durham
County of Essex
County of Huntingdonshire
County of Lancashire
County of Leicestershire
County of Lincolnshire
County of Middlesex
County of Norfolk
County of Northamptonshire
County of Northumberland
County of Nottinghamshire
County of Oxfordshire
County of Rutland
County of Staffordshire
County of Suffolk
County of Westmorland
County of Wrexham
County of Yorkshire
Scotland:
County of Aberdeenshire
County of Angus
County of Argyllshire
County of Banffshire
County of Berwickshire
County of Clackmannanshire
County of Dunbarton
County of Fife
County of Inverness-shire
County of Kincardine-Shire
County of West Lothian
County of East Lothian
County of Midlothian
County of Morayshire
County of Peeblesshire
County of Perthshire
County of Roxburghshire
County of Selkirkshire
is this list ALL of the counties served by the LNER?[/quote
I think it would be much easier if you dropped the word 'county' and just used 'Aberdeenshire' , 'Fife' etc. 'County' and 'shire' are synonymous', shire being the OE word and county being introduced after the Norman conquest.
the list below was from looking at the LNER map and comparing it to a map of traditional British counties, it's for a fictitious class I have planned to be named after counties served by the LNER. I've been putting together the list as they're going to be going on the locomotives, hence why they are separated in to England and Scotland in alphabetical order.
so far I have the following:
England:
County of Bedfordshire
County of Berkshire
County of Buckinghamshire
County of Cambridgeshire
County of Cheshire
County of Cumberland
County of Derbyshire
County of Durham
County of Essex
County of Huntingdonshire
County of Lancashire
County of Leicestershire
County of Lincolnshire
County of Middlesex
County of Norfolk
County of Northamptonshire
County of Northumberland
County of Nottinghamshire
County of Oxfordshire
County of Rutland
County of Staffordshire
County of Suffolk
County of Westmorland
County of Wrexham
County of Yorkshire
Scotland:
County of Aberdeenshire
County of Angus
County of Argyllshire
County of Banffshire
County of Berwickshire
County of Clackmannanshire
County of Dunbarton
County of Fife
County of Inverness-shire
County of Kincardine-Shire
County of West Lothian
County of East Lothian
County of Midlothian
County of Morayshire
County of Peeblesshire
County of Perthshire
County of Roxburghshire
County of Selkirkshire
is this list ALL of the counties served by the LNER?[/quote
I think it would be much easier if you dropped the word 'county' and just used 'Aberdeenshire' , 'Fife' etc. 'County' and 'shire' are synonymous', shire being the OE word and county being introduced after the Norman conquest.
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Re: Counties served by the LNER?
by served by I mean specifically LNER owned track.Hatfield Shed wrote:Hush! It's a secret, we don't want people too many folk to wot of this blessed spot, this jewel, etc..
'Served by': what is encompassed by that? In terms of freight dispatched in wagons the entire island of Britain, and scheduled services to some nearer parts of continental Europe, certainly as far as Italy. Through coaches, it would be much quicker to list the ceremonial counties not served.
Coalby and Marblethorpe, my vision of an un-nationalised Great Britain in the 50s and 60s: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11905
36C Studeos, kits in 4MM scale: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11947
36C Studeos, kits in 4MM scale: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11947
Re: Counties served by the LNER?
In earlier days the county of Angus was often known as Forfarshire (LNER No 266), and East, Mid-, and West Lothian as Haddingtonshire, Edinburghshire, and Linlithgowshire respectively, although there were no D49s with those names.
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Further to my earlier post; does anyone know if there's a difference between "Shire" and "County"? Politicians refer to "The Shire Counties" and some counties never seem to get the -shire suffix; for instance County Durham (and why is 'of' omitted?).
The structure of counties was an English one used before the United Kingdom existed and reference to Scottish shires makes me also wonder how that is viewed north of that border where things emanating from "Westminster" are not always universally popular. Certainly, as far as Wales goes, when around 1992 old county names made a comeback I noticed that many of the new signs marking the old Welsh counties had been obliterated with spray paint, suggesting that the locals preferred the newer names apparently based on Welsh girl's names.
The structure of counties was an English one used before the United Kingdom existed and reference to Scottish shires makes me also wonder how that is viewed north of that border where things emanating from "Westminster" are not always universally popular. Certainly, as far as Wales goes, when around 1992 old county names made a comeback I noticed that many of the new signs marking the old Welsh counties had been obliterated with spray paint, suggesting that the locals preferred the newer names apparently based on Welsh girl's names.