G.N.R. Stirling 174 class large 0-6-0.

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Re: G.N.R. Stirling 174 class large 0-6-0.

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john coffin wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 11:29 am I seem to remember that there was a drawing in the 70's in Railway Modeller of this loco
I cant seem to find it at the moment. Does this show that feature it would be a guide.


Paul
The BRMNA listings are not that precise but might it be this one, as it is the only one that appears to fit the bill?

Stirling large goods, 0-6-0 DR RM NOV 1973
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A little before my first purchases of RM, but that would be interesting to see, if drawn by somebody with the right knowledge and ability.
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Pretty sure it was one of a series by Drake Brookman (something like that) wjicj I think are
generally pretty good. They could also have been Ken Werret, but don't think so.

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Perusing my book collection, I came across Nock Pre Grouping Scenes vol 2
The Great Northern.

on page 24 is a picture of 145,same class as 174, not necessarily to early, but definitely with a flat
smokebox and door.
However, on page 25, is a picture of A142, one of the West Riding Coal Engines built around 1883,
the photo is not perfectly square, but it does imply that the smokebox door appears to be sloped.
Which is interesting, since Bird does not show that at all.

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Interesting observation regarding the possible sloping front on the West Riding loco.

I wonder if that picture of 145 that you found might be the same one that appears in Groves' GN Loco History and in the relevant issue of Locomotives Illustrated. If so, I further wonder whether there is any photograph that shows any other example of the 174 series, or possibly 145 but from the other side.
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Just checked, Graeme, and it is not the same picture, and also is the other way facing, with two crew members.
No sure about the LI version.

will see what else I can find

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Many thanks. Some of us (such as I) evidently have to be lead by the nose at times: Even when I'd read your further comment about that photograph I managed to think "it's a shame I don't have that book". Then I started to think properly, for a change, and went to look at the relevant section of my book shelves, and there was the book!
I'm now unable to decide which one of my oversights has been the more stupid. Failing to look for that book when I read your first comment about the picture, or failing to check for and to look through all relevant books when I was first seeking more information on the 174 series :oops: .
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At least you could find your copy Graeme, I still don't know where some of mine are,
they all seem to scurry off and hide when trying to check some facts :roll:

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