thompson and gresley coaches

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bignose27
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thompson and gresley coaches

Post by bignose27 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:56 am

what are the differences between Thompson and gresley coaches? They look the same to me.

silverfox
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Re: thompson and gresley coaches

Post by silverfox » Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:01 pm

In What respect?

Gresley were mostly wood construction
Thompson Steel

Thompson toilet windows were oval
Gresley were square

Thompson used a lot of the plans of Gresley esp in the local 52ft? carriages
Thompson did not used articulation

Willing to be put right on any of that as carriages not my strong point

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Re: thompson and gresley coaches

Post by jwealleans » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:15 am

I think that largely covers it. Gresley vestibuled carriages have domed roof ends - the roof curves down to meet the end at just above cantrail level while Thompson ones continue at a level and the end rises to meet them.

Gresley steel non-corridor stock was 51' or 54' and has deeper trussing than Thompson, which was, I believe only to 51'.

A look at the website of the LNER Coach Association will probably be informative.

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Re: thompson and gresley coaches

Post by greenglade » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:42 am

hi

If this question is in regards to the 'Flying Scotsman' model that you was seeking info on the train make up for, then the 'Thompson' coaches are probably not suitable for the locomotive in that guise as they are from a later era. I'm not clued up on when Thompson first built his carriages, others here will know better but unless he built these between 1941 and 1943 ( he took over from Gresley after his death in IIRC late 41) and they were actually pulled by the 'scotsman' in that short window (possible if in existence) then they are not suitable. 4472's livery changed to wartime black from 43.

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Re: thompson and gresley coaches

Post by Darryl Tooley » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:13 pm

The first two prototypes of the Thompson stock appeared in 1945; volume production didn't start until the following year, so as far as the LNER goes Thompson carriages would principally be associated with locomotives carrying their new numbers after the 1946 renumbering.

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Re: thompson and gresley coaches

Post by robertcwp » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:36 pm

The vast majority of Thompson stock was not built until after Thompson had retired and much of it did not appear until after nationalisation. Although steel-panelled, in other respects the body construction was largely timber-framed.

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