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Unknown coach.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:16 pm
by manna
G'Day Gents

Recently came across a picture of Hawick, but the coach has me believing it's Ex GNR, and a long way from home. Can anyone confirm what it is, Thanks.


manna

Re: Unknown coach.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:02 pm
by 52D
|My opening starter is from a subscriber to my fb page. Gordon Hall photo.
I've had it for ages but restricted to share.
I sort of assumed it was either an early bogied NB vehicle or a pair of 3 axle NB bodies put on to a spare bogied underframe to act as mobile stores?
I hadn't really gone any further on investigation but as a starting point for discussion I offer it here.

Re: Unknown coach.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:39 pm
by john coffin
would certainly say it is not GNR, wrong roof profile although it might be ex ECJS

paul

Re: Unknown coach.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:02 am
by jwealleans
Given where it is, I'd speculate NBR as well.

Re: Unknown coach.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:21 am
by Mickey
manna wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:16 pm
Recently came across a picture of Hawick, but the coach has me believing it's Ex GNR, and a long way from home. Can anyone confirm what it is, Thanks.
I personally don't know anything about coaches of the pre-grouping railways era but your believing that the coach may have been of GNR origin manna may have been because from a vague long lost memory there was a similar looking coach stabled in either the old Bounds Green or Hornsey carriage sidings back in the late 1960s which no doubt you would also remember.

Mickey

Re: Unknown coach.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:57 am
by JASd17
Early NBR bogie carriages, if that is what this photo illustrates, certainly had a very flat roof profile, akin to the six-wheel types. Later stock was more rounded in profile. The vents above the doors, as far as I can tell, have the look of NBR stock too.

John

Re: Unknown coach.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:22 pm
by UpDistant
There are a few more photos showing bits of this coach on the Railscot website - search for Hawick. Most of the time it appears on the road nearest the water tower, including one where it has been repainted. Unfortunately the resolution isn’t enough to decipher the lettering at the LH end

Re: Unknown coach.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:25 pm
by John Palmer
I suggest this is either an 8-compartment 3rd to 1908 NBR Diag. 44 or a 9-compartment 3rd to 1908 NBR Diag. 120. The compartment arrangement looks a little too spacious to me for a 9-compartment vehicle, but I may well be wrong. If this is the Hawick Tool Van then its number is E971525(?E): see http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/h/ha ... ex64.shtml. I take that to be its departmental number, so if anyone has a copy of Specialist Transport Publications' "No 9 - Pre-nationalisation Departmental Stock" they should be able to tie down its identity precisely.

Re: Unknown coach.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:01 am
by manna
G'Day Gents

Thank you for that, it seems to be on home turf after all.

manna