LNER Atlantic No.3279

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LNER Atlantic No.3279

Post by Rich » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:51 pm

Hello to all, I am currently researching into the design of LNER Atlantic No.3279, I believe originally built in 1907 as GNR No. 279 then rebuilt as a four cylinder by Sir Nigel Gresley in 1915. Finally it was redesigned back to a two cylinder using K2 cylinders and Walschaerts valve gear.

I have in my possession a part built 5" gauge of this design and I was wondering if anyone out there has any detailed drawings or photos of this loco to assist in the continuation of the build.

Thanks

Richard

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Re: LNER Atlantic No.3279

Post by JASd17 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:37 pm

I may be able to help with photos, but I think you need to state which version you are wanting to build?

John

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Re: LNER Atlantic No.3279

Post by Rich » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:18 pm

Hi John thanks for your reply I have attached a photo of a completed model based on what I am making, unfortunately I can't find the owner to ask for any help with drawings. All I know it's a GNR Ivatt Atlantic with K2 Cylinders and Walschaerts valve gear.

Many thanks

Richard

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Re: LNER Atlantic No.3279

Post by Rich » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:55 pm

Rich wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:18 pm
Hi John thanks for your reply I have attached a photo of a completed model based on what I am making, unfortunately I can't find the owner to ask for any help with drawings. All I know it's a GNR Ivatt Atlantic with K2 Cylinders and Walschaerts valve gear.

Many thanks

Richard
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Re: LNER Atlantic No.3279

Post by Itino » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:08 pm

Hi Rich,
a 5 inch version of the Ivatt Atlantic has been designed by Clarkson. You can get the plans via blackgates.co.uk, but I cannot tell you if there is a version with Walschaerts gear.

A 5 inch model of 3279 is running a guy at Ribble Valley Live Steamers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm3jL7LOsQ4 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68jtxf7TPPA). In your case I would try to get a contact to him via the clubs homepage, maybe he can give you some hints.

Ralf

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Re: LNER Atlantic No.3279

Post by Rich » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:18 pm

Hi Ralf,

Thanks for your reply the youtube video you linked I have already tried to locate the owner but with no result, I even tried the Sale engineering club as they were visiting on the day.

The loco your referring to from blackgates is the Waverly but that along with the Jersey Lily from AJ Reeves both use Stephensons link valve gear.

But thank you for your help

Richard

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Re: LNER Atlantic No.3279

Post by Atlantic 3279 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:40 pm

Good luck with the continuing construction - that is one of my favourite quirky locos, as you can probably tell from my ID!

I don't suppose the Isinglass drawings for model makers rather than model engineers are of the slightest use, but they do cover both rebuilt versions of the loco on separate sheets. You'll need much more detail in order to make the valve gear won't you?
Bachmann A2 to A2/3: from my thread in Model Railways page 56 to 83, also

Hornby A3 to A1/1 Great Northern: from page 84, in resin from page 108.


Apologies for so many missing images - see page 1 for reasons & possible solution.

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Re: LNER Atlantic No.3279

Post by Pebbles » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:42 am

From what I recall from conversation with John Edgson, his drawing of 3279 was a construct as he was unable to find source information.

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Re: LNER Atlantic No.3279

Post by Atlantic 3279 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:41 pm

John's notes on the drawing for 3279 admit that there is uncertainty, at least in respect of the cab.
Bachmann A2 to A2/3: from my thread in Model Railways page 56 to 83, also

Hornby A3 to A1/1 Great Northern: from page 84, in resin from page 108.


Apologies for so many missing images - see page 1 for reasons & possible solution.

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Re: LNER Atlantic No.3279

Post by jwealleans » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:24 pm

I don't know which came first, model or drawing, but he did put his metal where his mouth was, so to speak, with 3279.

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Re: LNER Atlantic No.3279

Post by Fairway 2746 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:33 am

Hi All,

The photo posted by Rich shows 3279 in a very flattering light. I especially like the higher running plate, very much like on the Pacifics. OS Nock's volume on GN Atlantics also has a shot but, nowhere near as nice as this. I'll have to pick up #13 of Yeadon's Register. I suspect it will have a better range of photos.

BTW, I also prefer the appearance of the C1 class as modified with the larger cab. Just something about it transforms the loco's line that I like. Oh well, no accounting for taste as they say.

Regards,
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Re: LNER Atlantic No.3279

Post by Itino » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:01 pm

Rich wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:18 pm

The loco your referring to from blackgates is the Waverly but that along with the Jersey Lily from AJ Reeves both use Stephensons link valve gear.

Richard
Hello Richard,

blackgates has two types of Atlantic Plans:

The Waverly by Martin Evans and
The Ivatt Atlantic (large boiler) by Clarksons

you will find the Clarksons on Page 89 in the catalogue

Ralf

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