Location of preserved Atlantics

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Location of preserved Atlantics

Post by kudu » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:30 pm

Sorry to take up space with this but I don't trust websites except this one.

Where are the preserved GN Atlantics these days? Is the C2 still at Bressingham, and the C1 at York?

If only all these locos wouldn't keep moving about.

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Re: Location of preserved Atlantics

Post by Rlangham » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:04 pm

990 is at York, 251 was at Barrow Hill for a few years but been at Locomotion, Shildon for at least two
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Re: Location of preserved Atlantics

Post by drmditch » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:35 pm

251 is at Shildon, tucked away on the south side of the building behind Hardwicke.
Yes, it ought to have more prominence and representations have been made!

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Re: Location of preserved Atlantics

Post by Hatfield Shed » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:33 am

The aspect that annoys is that the Doncaster design development collection ought to be kept together, single, atlantics, pacifics. I remember when museums were purposed as educational, but now they appear to be run by children who fling the toys in the box in any order.

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Re: Location of preserved Atlantics

Post by Atlantic 3279 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:25 pm

Possibly another result of allowing influence for those who whose attention span is insufficient for any serious learning and who can only be kept "entertained" by restless change or "artistic" chaos? No attempt to cater for those who would like to learn by disciplined and systematic study....
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Re: Location of preserved Atlantics

Post by JASd17 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:08 pm

Atlantic 3279 wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:25 pm
Possibly another result of allowing influence for those who whose attention span is insufficient for any serious learning and who can only be kept "entertained" by restless change or "artistic" chaos? No attempt to cater for those who would like to learn by disciplined and systematic study....
David Jenkinson, a reasonably senior 'educational' figure at the NRM from the beginning, wanted to explain the development of motive power around the large object displays. i.e. the main hall display. This was not allowed. Therefore this is nothing new.

These are my words based on conversations with David.

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Re: Location of preserved Atlantics

Post by kudu » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:39 am

Thanks for your information, and for the (somewhat depressing) discussion it has provoked.

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Re: Location of preserved Atlantics

Post by richard » Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:22 pm

They do seem to move them around - Hardwicke is now up at Shildon? I know when I visited, DP1 was on all the Shildon artwork, brochures, etc but wasn't there! Haven't seen it since it was in the Science Museum in the 1980s...


Yes you put everything that is related together in one spot - obviously you can tell a good story, and it is informative. On the other hand, if you have multiple sites, then there is a good argument to distribute stuff around. Eg. so people in the SW (say) can see that companies other than the GWR made locomotives worth talking about. Or vice versa - good locomotives were also made in places that didn't start with the letter 'D'!

You have to balance it out. Here, the National Collection is blessed with a large collection and a number of fair to good locations (and partner railways that can host exhibits) - I think we should be glad they have such problems! (compare: US or pretty much any other country)
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