Teak carriage photos

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Teak carriage photos

Post by jwealleans » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:12 pm

I thought I'd start a thread for photos of teak carriages - which will probably mainly be preserved ones - to act as a reference when people are looking for examples before painting models.

These were all taken on the NYMR on 11-03-18.

Apparently we can only load 4 photos per post if doing so directly, so these will be spread over 3 posts.
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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by jwealleans » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:16 pm

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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by jwealleans » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:16 pm

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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by MikeTrice » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:50 pm

Photos always welcome. Many thanks.

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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by Woodcock29 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:41 pm

Jonathan a great idea.

When I get time I'll add some of mine taken in 2008, 2013 and 2017.

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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by 2392 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:54 am

Yes indeed a good idea. I'll have a trawl through my collection of photos. Seeing your shots of Thompson TK 1623 Jonathan, I'll fish out some of mine showing Dave Simpson from the S.R.P.S. at B'oness painting her. I've also got a selection showing the Thompson CL being painted likewise to show. I've a mass of photos showing mainly Gresley stock in various states of restoration that would be of help, too.

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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by Dave » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:33 am

Cheers JW always good to see teak photo's.
Sawdust may correct me but the nail holes you can see on 43654 are not representative of LNER practice but probably a BR quick repair
when they where painted, so they would not be seen. Teak panels are/were always fixed with glue blocks from the rear, and lots of them.
So unless you want to show a preserved carriage repaired under BR do not replicate.

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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by jwealleans » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:57 am

43654 was interesting in the context of a conversation we'd been having about lining and lettering. I don't want to sound as if I'm having a go at the wonderful work of those who restore these vehicles, especially as I'm nothing but an armchair supporter, but with those like Graeme Leary in mind who are using this forum to learn, can I put forward the following?

- There should not be lining between the letters of 'Restaurant Car' where it crosses vertical beading
- The running number and LNER should be centred in the upper panels in which they are located, or beneath the leftmost window in the case of a long panel.

I'm fairly confident about the first but open to correction on either.

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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by MikeTrice » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:17 am

or beneath the leftmost window in the case of a long panel
Not certain about that one. Surely it depends on whether you are talking about the left hand or right hand end when viewed side on.

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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by jwealleans » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:25 am

I wasn't clear, when i read that back. The LNER, being to the left, should be under the leftmost window; the number, being to the right, under the rightmost.

What i need are a few pictures of end door stock to see what they did. In the specific case of 43654 it was the LNER transfer I was looking at.

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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by MikeTrice » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:28 am

Just found some end door photos that disprove that theory. Will keep looking.

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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by Dave » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:31 am

Looking at the photos as they appear and not enlarging them I missed the lining issue, it is wrong.
Now sure on the other points you raise till I check my details.

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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by drmditch » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:22 pm

Below are some of my pictures from the NYMR. I have more if they are sufficiently useful. I was trying to pin-down 'in-service' condition and how roof canvas appeared in different conditions. It is amazing how much difference a wet day makes.

I can also recommend the website for the LNER Coach Association ... who have restored these vehicles...
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I have re-seized all of these so as not to take up too much space. If anybody needs larger images then let me know.

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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by Dave » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:16 pm

Here are some of my teak pictures.
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GNR 43909 (1).JPG
GNR 43909 (2).JPG
GNR BG 109 (1).JPG
GNR BG 109 (2).JPG

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Re: Teak carriage photos

Post by Dave » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:20 pm

Plus some lining details from GNR BG 109
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GNR BG 109 (3).JPG
GNR BG 109 TYPICAL LINING (1).JPG
GNR BG 109 TYPICAL LINING (2).JPG
GNR BG 109 TYPICAL LINING (3).JPG

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