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Queen of Scots Pullmans markings

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:23 am
by nutford
A quick question on the QofS Pullman coaches, as they ran in 1930.

I was going to make up this train from Hornby coaches, but there appears to be two different styles of marking.
Some say for example 'No77', and others 'car number 77'. I believe I've seen photos of both, but not sure, so maybe they changed over time.
Can anybody tell me which ones would be right for c1930?

Likewise, the Hornby ones come with the QoS roof signs brown on cream OR white on black. Again, which is right for that date?

Finally - I'm assuming the train would have a front nameboard, but would there be one at the rear, and does anyone have an illustration of it;

Thanks for all responses.

Re: Queen of Scots Pullmans markings

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:33 pm
by Hatfield Shed
The ones you want have an easy 'marker'. As built and in LNER service, the windows had pull down blinds which left the whole window aperture clear. Post war they got curtains, which Hornby print - good and big! - on the inside of the glazing. So easy to spot the version with blinds as the ones you want, and these will have the fuller description of 'car no and class'.

The rest of your questions await someone with rather more knowledge of this very specialised subject... (I just hang a neat formation of brake end, kitchen, parlour, kitchen, named 1st parlour, named 1st parlour, 1st kitchen, brake end on the hook of an LNER liveried C1, and enjoy the show as it glides past on the layout.)

Re: Queen of Scots Pullmans markings

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:48 pm
by nutford
HS - I know which coaches ran in this train, as follows:

Set 1 (No. 1 Train) Cars 77, 71, 73, Thelma, Sheila, 76, 70, 78
Set 2 (No. 2 Train) Cars 79, 67, 75, Phyllis, Agatha, 74, 69, 80.

All being steel K-type 8 wheelers.

It's the apparently changing markings that have me puzzled; on all the pics I have the quaility is such I can't see any markings at all, let alone which ones they were! Actually, I may have solved part of my own question: ... 41749.html

This pic is apparently when new (1928) and shows the longer form of identification.