Tourist Stock Lining

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Tourist Stock Lining

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'Morning Folks,

I've got a query about LNER Tourist Stock livery.  I've built my first twin third finished and it's ready for painting and lining.  I reckoned that the lining between the cream and green paint was black.  However, I've been told it should be black and red.  I've been sent a photo of a Kemilway one finished thus.  However, I've got 1 colour photo showing a Tourist stock vehicle in the background and a red line is not apparent (Big Four in Colour) although the red lining on the loco in the foreground is.  Does anybody have any knowledge or thoughts on this please?
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Without being able to recall where I got the information from, I thought it was a single black line.
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LNER Study Group Journal Number 1 contains an extensive article by RDA Johnston on the Tourist stock. Whilst not a source document he includes comprehensive external and internal livery details and records that the lower 'Engine Green' and upper 'Cream' were divided by a thin black line.
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Thanks for your replies chaps. I too think it's a thin black line. However some knowledgeable folks say there's a thin red line below the black one. Hmmm
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No red line on the livery drawing I have.
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Thanks to great help from fellow members it's clear that there was a 1/2" black line between the green and cream areas. We agreed on the photos but then the LNER finishing drawing was produced to confirm that.

Thank you.

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Please excuse an 'off-threads question, but did the same apply to the railcars?
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drmditch wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:03 am Please excuse an 'off-threads question, but did the same apply to the railcars?
I've read that the tourist stock and railcar's had the same livery. Can't vouch for that being correct though!

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The human visual system tends to create the impression of the reverse of the original stimulus when that stimulus stops abruptly. That can be a reverse-contrast after-image in the short time after the stimulus ceases, or an impression of the opposite of the true stimulus adjoining a sharp boundary between brightness and darkness, or a boundary between colours. It occurs to me that very serious study of an image of the tourist stock might induce the impression of a red line adjoining the green area where it meets the genuine black line, red being the complimentary colour to green, i.e. the opposite of the original stimulus.
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I read on another group recently that the faux Tourist stock used in the 1980s on the West Highland line had red/black lining at the colour division. Presumably that idea came from somewhere and it may also have added to the confusion as well.
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There is a Bassett Lowke carriage currently on eBay with the orange/black lining. Perhaps this is the source:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BASSETT-LOWK ... 0488219606
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One of the faux Tourist Stock coaches is currently under restoration at Lincolnshire Wolds.

I’m pretty sure I have images pre paint stripping and restoration and don’t recall red/black lining.

Will dig them out.
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This is the assertion to which I referred (posted by Gordon Clark):

"... later repaints were labelled with just 'West Highland Line', black coach ends rather than green and the lining between the green and cream was changed to have a red stripe rather than just white-black-white lining e.g. https://www.flickr.com/photos/127282573 ... 263593616/"
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