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Re: The GNR didn't design a dock shunter, so neither did the LNER

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 4:29 pm
by Eightpot
john coffin wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 1:20 pm
The interesting thing is that although there were a lot of different Sentinels on the LNER, no drawings
appear to have survived, except a couple of magazine ones which of course we now question the accuracy of.

Paul
As Drawings Officer of the Sentinel Drivers Club I can advise that we do have General Arrangement drawings for the Y1, Y3, and (without checking) probably for the Y10 as well. Drawings cost £5 each to SDC members and £15 each to non-members. They are normally sent via email against payment.

Re: The GNR didn't design a dock shunter, so neither did the LNER

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 9:29 pm
by Danby Wiske
Many thanks! I wasn't aware of this organisation, but I've just enjoyed exploring your website. A great resource!

Re: The GNR didn't design a dock shunter, so neither did the LNER

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 2:27 pm
by Eightpot
Further to my original posting I can confirm that the SDC does have General Arrangement drawings for the LNER Sentinel locos. Starting with the drawing number.......

L927 (a London Office drawing) Y1 8400/BR 68130/Departmental 37, the first LNER Sentinel with the early type cab and bunker with 2' - 8-1/2" diameter boiler.

8382 Y1/1 with later cab and bunker arrangement, but still with 2' - 8-1/2" diameter boiler and single funnel/chimney as had L927 too.

11070 Generally for the remainder of the Y1 class, now fitted with the 3' - 1" diameter 25%LTS (Larger Than Standard) boiler and a double funnel/chimney.

12450 Generally covering the Y3, built with the 25%LTS boiler and double funnel/chimney.

12015 Y10 double cab-ended 200 hp locos 8147 & 8148, BR 68186 & 68187.

While writing, as far as the Railcars are concerned Sentinel only supplied the boilers, engines and other mechanical parts including the power bogies. All the bodywork, frames etc. were done by Metropolitan-Cammell.

Re: The GNR didn't design a dock shunter, so neither did the LNER

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 11:49 pm
by john coffin
Thanks Eightpot,
It is interesting that all the previously published stuff refers to them as Sentinel railcars, and makes little mention
of Metro Cammell's involvement.

I guess it is therefore possible that some data may be available at the Metro Cam archive?

Paul

Re: LNER dock shunter, steam railcars, Sentinel, Met-Camm

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 2:42 pm
by Hatfield Shed
I have altered the title to better represent the interesting steam railcar content