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LNER Ex GCR J12

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:17 pm
by Pebbles
I believe Bill Bedford did an etch for this many years ago. Does anyone know where details, other than the weight diagram, can be found.

Re: LNER Ex GCR J12

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 1:24 pm
by Atlantic 3279
Oddly enough, a similar question cropped up fairly recently, so I did some checking back on this website. About a decade ago, Rob Bergin, who used to post regularly in the modelling forum but then left without trace built two of Bill's etches. I don't know if they were test etches or the production version, but here's photographic proof, re-posted from a previous forum image:
IMG_2219.jpg
I understand that Jonathon Wealleans tried to get an etch from Bill almost as long ago, and has been waiting, without result, ever since.

Re: LNER Ex GCR J12

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 4:55 pm
by Pebbles
Many thanks for that, and I was aware of the article. The problem is that I'm rather of the view that the etches were based on a weight diagram! However, the rebuilds did have one of Robinson's standard boilers as fitted to LNER J9/10. Useful side photos are rather limited, but I did find a photo in a copy of Locomotives Illustrated. Finally for the life of me I can't find a reference to any possible works drawings for either the loco or tender.

Re: LNER Ex GCR J12

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:32 pm
by Atlantic 3279
I'm not immediately aware of anything more helpful, but I'll ask a man who might know.

Re: LNER Ex GCR J12

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:15 pm
by Pebbles
Many thanks, as I do believe that this a subject worth pursuing.

Re: LNER Ex GCR J12

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:38 am
by Atlantic 3279
Don't thank me too much. I've already heard back from my fount of all knowledge and I'm afraid he has no further information.

Re: LNER Ex GCR J12

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:01 pm
by Pebbles
At present all of my books are packed away. From memory in Leech and Boddy's book on the Stirling Singles they make comment on the fact that so much of what was then of current relevance to the LNER was destroyed after Gresley's death. This may have been what happened in the case of the J12s and would leave only Beyer and Peacock as a possible avenue.

Re: LNER Ex GCR J12

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:40 pm
by Pebbles
From a 1951 MRN I have Maskelyne's drawing of a Sacre class 6B later LNER class D12. Maskelyne confess that he had to rather construct this drawing possibly due to a lack of information. I will no doubt have to follow a similar route with the Class 6C. However, it would be a great help if I could get some lead on the Sacre tenders. No doubt, due to the fact that the tender springs were located outside of the tanks, the tank widths should be the same, but tank capacities and wheel bases do differ. Has anyone any ideas where I might look?

Re: LNER Ex GCR J12

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:24 pm
by strang steel
Atlantic 3279 wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 1:24 pm Oddly enough, a similar question cropped up fairly recently, so I did some checking back on this website. About a decade ago, Rob Bergin, who used to post regularly in the modelling forum but then left without trace built two of Bill's etches. I don't know if they were test etches or the production version, but here's photographic proof, re-posted from a previous forum image:
IMG_2219.jpg
I understand that Jonathon Wealleans tried to get an etch from Bill almost as long ago, and has been waiting, without result, ever since.
Bill is a member of this forum, and it might be more productive for folk to send a private message - rather than make public comments.