Plaque on Union of south africa

sng7 · Post by **sng7** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:58 pm

I saw the union of south africa when it was in perth station the other day and i wondered what the square plaque on the side was for and the symbol on the side under the number was cam anyone help?

Bullhead · Post by **Bullhead** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:18 pm

The plaque...

...is a Springbok, national animal and symbol of South Africa. The real ones don't have wings

The coat of arms...

...is that of South Africa up to 2000.

Blink Bonny · Post by **Blink Bonny** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:12 pm

This was allegedly given to the engine by a Bloemfontein newspaper proprietor in the early 50's and carried by the engine ever since except during her stint as Osprey.

silver fox · Post by **silver fox** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:29 pm

I always wondered what it was, but didn't think of it as a springbok due to the wings! and it is only on the one side, and also after seeing it loads of times, it is only this year I have seen it close up, and realised it is stood proud of the engine!

I did however realise it was the coat of arms, which is why the builders plate is on the inside

60041 · Post by **60041** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:48 pm

I am going out tomorrow to get some new glasses, I have seen UoSA several times over the years, and have never even noticed the crest before!
It has passed my house twice in the last few weeks, so here are a couple of pictures I took of it passing our place, the head on shot was taken from the bottom of our garden, and you can just make out the springbok plaque on the boiler.

52D · Post by **52D** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:02 pm

Youve managed to capture a sixties feel to the picture great shot Mr S

60041 · Post by **60041** » Sat May 24, 2008 10:11 pm

60009 came storming past this morning on a Huddersfield - Edinburgh special, unfortunately it failed at Smeafield with a hot box on the Cartazzi axle. It is currently dumped at Berwick down sidings

silver fox · Post by **silver fox** » Sat May 24, 2008 11:29 pm

Struggled outta York, slipped at least 5 times, and was throwing out the most horendous black smoke!

As if you were there!

60041 · Post by **60041** » Thu May 29, 2008 9:55 pm

Quite a good video clip, you were right about the smoke and the slipping.
I seem to remember that northbound starts were often difficult at York in steam days because of the curvature of the platform causing the flanges on the coaches to bind.
I remember once when I was very young, watching a pacific, possibly an A1, having real trouble. The driver had set back slightly to get water so the couplings were all tight, and that coupled with greasy rails meant that he needed many attempts to get away. I can remember the incredible noise and the sight of red hot cinders shooting up into the air as he slipped. At least he caught it, and did not do a "Blue Peter"!

silver fox · Post by **silver fox** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:51 pm

The broken 60009 was towed down to the NRM last Sunday due in at 20:30 (weel I didn't see it) UKsteam has it down for 00:20 arrival, reports have it as 02:19 it was towed behind 66110 at a steady 35mph and ran hot again.
She was supposed to make it too Crewe, but didn't, and is sat in the NRM work shop as we speak

60041 · Post by **60041** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:30 pm

By chance I saw it pass my house last Sunday being towed backwards by the 66. There were people on the footplate looking anxiously at the trailing axle. it seemed ok at that point but will only have covered about 35 miles then. I think that it was stopped at Newcastle for attention.
Of course I had only just put my camera away when it came past!

giner · Post by **giner** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:15 am

Good work, Silver Fox! You'll have to change your moniker to Sleuthy Fox.

60041 · Post by **60041** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:38 pm

Does anyone know if No. 9 is going to be ready for "The Heart of Midlothian" on July 5th?

silver fox · Post by **silver fox** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:00 pm

That's the Coronation that is.

It has a test run to Scarborough on Tuesday hopefully, then we'll know.

Anyone have any times for Sat/Sun yet?

60041 · Post by **60041** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:11 pm

Times for Saturday 5th July courtesy of UK Steam Info
1Z51
0.0 London Kings Cross d 07.25 60007
Finsbury Park 07.32
Potters Bar 07.44
Woolmer Green Jc 07.53
Stevenage 07.58
Sandy 08.12
Huntingdon 08.25
Holme Jc d 08.35 water
d 08.59
Peterborough 09.09
Tallington Jc 09.16
Stoke Tunnel 09.30
Grantham DGL a 09.36 water
d 10.12
Newark Northgate 10.27
Retford 10.43
Doncaster 11.00
Temple Hirst Jc 11.12
Colton Jc 11.24
York a 11.32
1Z51
0.0 York d 15.04 60009
Tollerton 15.15
Thirsk 15.25
Northallerton 15.32
Darlington 15.46
Ferryhill S Jc 15.58
Durham 16.07
Tyne Yard a 16.20 water
d 16.45
Newcastle a 16.56
d 17.06
Heaton S Jc 17.09
Morpeth 17.26
Alnmouth 17.44
Belford 17.53
Berwick 18.18
Berwick DGL a 18.21 water
d 18.58
Grantshouse 19.19
Dunbar 19.34
Drem 19.42
Monktonhall Jc 20.00
Edinburgh a 20.10

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Plaque on Union of south africa

Plaque on Union of south africa

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