Hi All, I am in desperate need of help! It is my bosses 50th birthday on the 15th of April - he is from Grimsby originally and has a keen interest in Steam Locomotives - we are trying to find a Steam Engine that would have run on the line through Grimsby in 1956, and ultimately then will will try to buy a 00 Guage model of it! So far I have been advised to buy a:
B1 61008 'KUDU' (BR No.8309) - Bachmann make a weathered version
Can anyone tell me if this sounds about right, or if they have any better ideas PLEASE let me know ASAP!
Does anyone know about 'the Grimsby fish' a regular run to London?
Please, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks - Chris
B1 61008 - Please help...
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PaulG
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Chris
I don't have much info outside East Anglia, but B-1 61008 Kudu was allocated to East Anglia sheds (Parkeston and Stratford) from at least 1948-1955.
In Gavin Morrisons book "The Eastern & North Eastern Then & Now" there is a photo of Grimsby Town on 13 October 1956 with Class B-1 61205 on the 12.15pm train to King's Cross (via Boston). At that time I think the loco was allocated to Peterbough New England shed.
Try the Great Northern Railway Society and the Great Central Railway Society. I'm not sure if the GCRS has a web site but the GNRS has:
http://www.gnrs.150m.com/
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Paul
I don't have much info outside East Anglia, but B-1 61008 Kudu was allocated to East Anglia sheds (Parkeston and Stratford) from at least 1948-1955.
In Gavin Morrisons book "The Eastern & North Eastern Then & Now" there is a photo of Grimsby Town on 13 October 1956 with Class B-1 61205 on the 12.15pm train to King's Cross (via Boston). At that time I think the loco was allocated to Peterbough New England shed.
Try the Great Northern Railway Society and the Great Central Railway Society. I'm not sure if the GCRS has a web site but the GNRS has:
http://www.gnrs.150m.com/
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Paul
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Colombo
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Chris,
The nearest steam shed to Grimsby was probably Immingham 40B and so I expect that your boss would be pleased to have a locomotive that was allocated to that shed. I have also shown the allocation to Lincoln below.
It is important that you establish what period your boss is interested in. Is he a British Railways enthusiast for the 1950s and early sixties, or alternatively is he a fan of the LNER pre 1948, or some other period? On the balance of probability, I will assume that he is interested in the 1950s/early sixties.
The locomotives allocated to Immingham and Lincoln sheds were:
Eastern Region
The locomotives allocation for this page are as they were reported on 21st May 1960. Class types followed by Locomotive numbers.
40B IMMINGHAM
Diesel shunters 12123 12124 12125 12126 12133 12135
Ivatt Class 4 43095
B1s 61079 61082 61098
61114 61130 61143 61144 61159 61168 61175 61185 61190 61195
61235 61248 61317 61318 61325 61328 61366 61374 61379 61406
61408
K2s
61730 61740 61745 61756 61766 61767 61771 61773
K3s 61866
61891 61905 61912 61950 61956 61966
O1s and O4s 63607 63615 63634 63641
63643 63651 63692 63707 63708 63738 63758 63759 63837 63878
J11s
64284 64305 64325 64355 64386 64446
J94s 68018 68070 68074 68078
A5
69829
Wds 90003 90029 90035 90036 90053 90131 90161 90166 90175
90221 90224 90280 90285 90288 90294 90383 90393 90394 90443
90460 90510 90583 90674
9Fs 92039 92193 92194 92195 92196 92202
Diesel Shunters D2020 D2021 D2022 D2207 D2233 D2234 D2235 D2400 D2403 D3152
D3153 D3154 D3155 D3156 D3157 D3158 D3159 D3160 D3161 D3162
D3163 D3164 D3165 D3166 D3708 D3709
40A LINCOLN
Ivatt 4s 43060 43104 43154 43158
B1s 61009 61026 61042 61058 61160 61202
61223 61258 61284 61348 61384 61405 61409
K3s 61807 61828 61848
61859 61877 61889 61894 61919 61926 61944 61960
J11s 64278 64318
64362
J39s 64726 64741 64896 64961 64966
J67s and J69s 68501 68554 68560
A5 69808
69820
Diesel Shunters D2026 D2027 D2404 D2405 D2406 D2407 D2408
Whilst you can buy B1s, K3s, Ivatt 4s, J39s, and WDs from Bachmans and the J94s from Hornby, I don't think that you can buy the exact ones with the right numbers as allocated to either of these sheds. However it is a fairly simple job for a skilful modeller to renumber a loco. I would therefore suggest that you buy him any of the above in BR black, except the Ivatt 4 with the double chimney.
As regards the Grimsby fish trains, I would expect them to be pulled by an Immingham K3. The Bachman K3 is a superb model and runs very well indeed.
If your boss is an LNER fan, ask me again.
Colombo
The nearest steam shed to Grimsby was probably Immingham 40B and so I expect that your boss would be pleased to have a locomotive that was allocated to that shed. I have also shown the allocation to Lincoln below.
It is important that you establish what period your boss is interested in. Is he a British Railways enthusiast for the 1950s and early sixties, or alternatively is he a fan of the LNER pre 1948, or some other period? On the balance of probability, I will assume that he is interested in the 1950s/early sixties.
The locomotives allocated to Immingham and Lincoln sheds were:
Eastern Region
The locomotives allocation for this page are as they were reported on 21st May 1960. Class types followed by Locomotive numbers.
40B IMMINGHAM
Diesel shunters 12123 12124 12125 12126 12133 12135
Ivatt Class 4 43095
B1s 61079 61082 61098
61114 61130 61143 61144 61159 61168 61175 61185 61190 61195
61235 61248 61317 61318 61325 61328 61366 61374 61379 61406
61408
K2s
61730 61740 61745 61756 61766 61767 61771 61773
K3s 61866
61891 61905 61912 61950 61956 61966
O1s and O4s 63607 63615 63634 63641
63643 63651 63692 63707 63708 63738 63758 63759 63837 63878
J11s
64284 64305 64325 64355 64386 64446
J94s 68018 68070 68074 68078
A5
69829
Wds 90003 90029 90035 90036 90053 90131 90161 90166 90175
90221 90224 90280 90285 90288 90294 90383 90393 90394 90443
90460 90510 90583 90674
9Fs 92039 92193 92194 92195 92196 92202
Diesel Shunters D2020 D2021 D2022 D2207 D2233 D2234 D2235 D2400 D2403 D3152
D3153 D3154 D3155 D3156 D3157 D3158 D3159 D3160 D3161 D3162
D3163 D3164 D3165 D3166 D3708 D3709
40A LINCOLN
Ivatt 4s 43060 43104 43154 43158
B1s 61009 61026 61042 61058 61160 61202
61223 61258 61284 61348 61384 61405 61409
K3s 61807 61828 61848
61859 61877 61889 61894 61919 61926 61944 61960
J11s 64278 64318
64362
J39s 64726 64741 64896 64961 64966
J67s and J69s 68501 68554 68560
A5 69808
69820
Diesel Shunters D2026 D2027 D2404 D2405 D2406 D2407 D2408
Whilst you can buy B1s, K3s, Ivatt 4s, J39s, and WDs from Bachmans and the J94s from Hornby, I don't think that you can buy the exact ones with the right numbers as allocated to either of these sheds. However it is a fairly simple job for a skilful modeller to renumber a loco. I would therefore suggest that you buy him any of the above in BR black, except the Ivatt 4 with the double chimney.
As regards the Grimsby fish trains, I would expect them to be pulled by an Immingham K3. The Bachman K3 is a superb model and runs very well indeed.
If your boss is an LNER fan, ask me again.
Colombo
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hi
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.enefer has pictures of trains from all over the north lincolnshire area, including grimsby and grimsby docks. these are fair quality and have the engine types and running numbers below the pictures. this is only a small website and appears to be run by an individual enthusiast who appears to have a keen interest in the area you are looking for.
Flying scotsman even made a passing visit in 69, and there appear to have been a wide variety of locomotives working the line.
hope this helps
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.enefer has pictures of trains from all over the north lincolnshire area, including grimsby and grimsby docks. these are fair quality and have the engine types and running numbers below the pictures. this is only a small website and appears to be run by an individual enthusiast who appears to have a keen interest in the area you are looking for.
Flying scotsman even made a passing visit in 69, and there appear to have been a wide variety of locomotives working the line.
hope this helps
James 
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According to my father the Grimsby Fish trains where mainly 9f (mainly BR 1F tender & double chimney) hauled in the late 50's. K3's LMS 8f's, crabs and 4F 0-6-0's could sometimes be seen also.
Hornby recently produced a weathered J94 with high bunker and a 40B immingham shed plate. Immingham being the local shed. I have this model but it is currently on loan to my father so will have to check the number later.
I have a bachmann model of 61003 Gazelle which was allocated to 40b Immingham for a time. The shedplate would need changing though. Replica Railways have in the past produce a model of B1 61026 Ourebi with a 40A lincoln Shedplate. This was at one time a 40B Immingham loco and would have no doubt hauled the Grimsby to London trains before the arrival of the Britannias.
Speaking of Brittanias no.s 70036 to 70041 where allocated to immingham for a couple of years before diesels took over the London trains. Hornby have produced 70036 Boadicea, 70038 robin Hood & 70040 Clive of India.
Hornby recently produced a weathered J94 with high bunker and a 40B immingham shed plate. Immingham being the local shed. I have this model but it is currently on loan to my father so will have to check the number later.
I have a bachmann model of 61003 Gazelle which was allocated to 40b Immingham for a time. The shedplate would need changing though. Replica Railways have in the past produce a model of B1 61026 Ourebi with a 40A lincoln Shedplate. This was at one time a 40B Immingham loco and would have no doubt hauled the Grimsby to London trains before the arrival of the Britannias.
Speaking of Brittanias no.s 70036 to 70041 where allocated to immingham for a couple of years before diesels took over the London trains. Hornby have produced 70036 Boadicea, 70038 robin Hood & 70040 Clive of India.
To everyone!
This is just a quick note to thank everyone for their help! I have no idea what I am looking for, so all your comments have been well received! Thanks again, I will post a note to let you know what I/We ended up getting him! Thanks ALL!