North Eastern Railway Gunpowder Vans

[Rlangham]

Hi all, looking for images or descriptions of North Eastern Railway gunpowder vans, especially those used during the First World War. Spotted a few models on the Hattons website, including this one - the LNER website describes them as being painted in vermillion with white lettering, so something like this presumably, but I guess this is based on an LNER gunpowder van rather than NER? (Although it does say on it return to Heaton Junction... so may be in luck)

http://www.ehattons.com/52434/Dapol_2F_ ... etail.aspx

Cheers, Rob

[richard]

Dapol have also produced this model in "NE" grey, but I don't think it was explicitly listed as LNER, just "NE"!

I understand the model is actually a variant of a GWR Iron Mink which has then been re-liveried for the dozen or so different versions that they've produced (I have the grey NE(R), red NBR, and white GNR models).

[markindurham]

I think there's an image of a gunpowder van at Shincliffe available - I'm away from home at present so can't check my collection, but perhaps this might jog other peoples' memories?

Mark

[jwealleans]

The new Tatlow shows 2 NER gunpowder vans, one small with a high arc roof, the other very much a standard Iron Mink with rounded corners and different doors.

You might want to check dimensions if you're very fussy but I suspect you could basically get away with these, dependent on the lettering being accurate. Both Tatlow pictures are from the LNER period.

[markindurham]

In luck - found the picture. I've just cropped it to show the van - note the lettering across it. This shot is from after 1941; I suspect mid-1950s, but am not certain



Cheers
Mark

[2512silverfox]

I think that is a GWR GPV. Generic iron mink. In grey with GPV in red. Check Jim Russell.

[Bryan]

Interesting Stop block and trap / catch point.

I see that some more shots like that have appeared on the conc huts thread.

[markindurham]

Interesting Stop block and trap / catch point.

I see that some more shots like that have appeared on the conc huts thread.

Yes, very interesting, and very do-able on a model. It's little details like those that do 'make the difference'

Mark

[Pre-Grouping Rail]

there were two types of NER gunpowder vans that ran through to BR days the first is a small van built in the 1890's and a Standard mink style van built in the run in to WW1. The small one was designed to run with cholderon wagons and was on a short wheel base of 8ft. Where as the larger van is of the standard GWR iron mink but with NER fittings.

Marc