New (E) images on Mike Morant’s web site

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New (E) images on Mike Morant’s web site

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The Eastern material, including Scottish, is here ........
https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Latest-u ... uploads-E/

This is a small selection but is varied and of generally fine quality. There are, as usual, a few question marks regarding the captions ........

https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Latest-u ... -THGXdjG/A
Ipswich: does anyone know when the signal cabin shown here was demolished? I suspect that the date can be narrowed down to within a day or two.

https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Latest-u ... -9TM6K9K/A
5038: is this at Neasden?

https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Latest-u ... -SDm3rSL/A
and https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Latest-u ... -cbLnqqW/A
2228 & 2248: both sleeve notes state “Kipps” as the location which I find a bit dubious. I suspect that Kittybrewster is more likely but what do you think?

https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Latest-u ... -B8vG9fc/A
6894: St Margaret’s says the sleeve note but is it?

https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Latest-u ... -wBRgt7C/A
A super shot of a Reid atlantic but does anyone recognise where this was taken?

Your help with the above would be appreciated.

All the latest uploads can be accessed from this link ........
https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Latest-u ... nd-queries


Rgds,

Mike M.
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upney sidings wrote: https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Latest-u ... -THGXdjG/A
Ipswich: does anyone know when the signal cabin shown here was demolished? I suspect that the date can be narrowed down to within a day or two.
Closed 11th April 1984, but the Signalling Record Society Register does not give date of demolition.
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upney sidings wrote:
https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Latest-u ... -THGXdjG/A
Ipswich: does anyone know when the signal cabin shown here was demolished? I suspect that the date can be narrowed down to within a day or two.

Closed 11th April 1984, but the Signalling Record Society Register does not give date of demolition.
Thank you. The plastic slide mount has '84' just about visible in pencil.
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Mike, I will take a punt at the Reid Atlantic shown in i-wBRgt7C/A being at Newtonhill, on the Caledonian main line south of Aberdeen. The signals and the A-frame telegraph pole are, to me, of Caledonian appearance. Also, if you refer to Jim Summers' 'Signalling the Caledonian Railway', you will find at page 92 a shot of Newtonhills viewed in the opposite direction and showing the wrong road signal in exactly the right position. So I think this is an NBR Aberdeen-Edinburgh express exercising running powers over the Caledonian line north of Kinnaber Jc.

/i-hpCJmZ2/A is far and away the best shot I have yet seen of the sidings at Glasnacardoch on the approach to Mallaig, and shows well two turnouts typical of North British practice, constructed with interlaced sleepers and loose heel switches. A lovely picture!
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I think 6894 is at Kittybrewster, not St Margarets.

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John Palmer wrote:Mike, I will take a punt at the Reid Atlantic shown in i-wBRgt7C/A being at Newtonhill, on the Caledonian main line south of Aberdeen. The signals and the A-frame telegraph pole are, to me, of Caledonian appearance. Also, if you refer to Jim Summers' 'Signalling the Caledonian Railway', you will find at page 92 a shot of Newtonhills viewed in the opposite direction and showing the wrong road signal in exactly the right position. So I think this is an NBR Aberdeen-Edinburgh express exercising running powers over the Caledonian line north of Kinnaber Jc.

/i-hpCJmZ2/A is far and away the best shot I have yet seen of the sidings at Glasnacardoch on the approach to Mallaig, and shows well two turnouts typical of North British practice, constructed with interlaced sleepers and loose heel switches. A lovely picture!
Invaluable, John. Many thanks for the location and I have to agree that there's something rather special about that Mallaig shot.

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JASd17 wrote:I think 6894 is at Kittybrewster, not St Margarets.
Yes, I agree.
2228 & 2248: both sleeve notes state “Kipps” as the location which I find a bit dubious. I suspect that Kittybrewster is more likely but what do you think?
Sorry, my mistake. Perhaps Keith has been misinterpreted as Kipps somewhere down the food chain.
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I agree 2228 and 2248 are almost certainly taken at Keith.

There is a photo by Ben Brooksbank on the Geograph website taken at Keith, which shows the watertower seen in the 2228 photo.

The shed in the 2248 view certainly looks similar to the illustration of Keith shed in Paul Bolger's Scottish Region BR Steam MPD book.

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John Palmer wrote:Mike, I will take a punt at the Reid Atlantic shown in i-wBRgt7C/A being at Newtonhill, on the Caledonian main line south of Aberdeen. The signals and the A-frame telegraph pole are, to me, of Caledonian appearance.
An NBR specialist has sent me this which will be of interest to you and others:
If you view http://maps.nls.uk/view/82887816 and zoom in on the station, the information there is quite consistent with that result.

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Those 25" : 1 Mile NLS maps are a superb reference! I think this helps to confirm the location, but also happens to raise a question that rather intrigues me.

The map shows the down refuge siding visible on the left side of your picture, but indicates that it is only accessible via a facing movement. This is, up to a point, consistent with the observation in Jim's book that "the Caledonian had a propensity for Refuge Sidings, rather than loops," but he then goes on to refer to the usual practice of recessing a train by reversing it into the siding. Here at Newtonhill, however, the opposite seems to be the case.

A facing connection from a line carrying passenger traffic requires the added complication and expense of a facing point lock, the cover for which can be seen in the foreground of your photograph. Such facing connections were anathema to some companies, probably for just this reason, so why in the case of Newtonhill did the Caledonian adopt such an arrangement? I note from the map that the line is carried on an embankment to the south of the station, so was this a case in which, having determined that a refuge siding was required at this location, the Caledonian was not prepared to bear the expense of broadening the embankment to accommodate such a siding and preferred instead to adopt the facing connection into the siding shown?
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As well as the usual fare I’ve been resurrecting a batch of negatives labelled as rejects that have been sitting here doing nowt for several years. All the latest uploads relating to BR(E), (NE) and some (SC) are here .........

https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Latest-u ... uploads-E/

There are two location queries amongst this batch.

62279
https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Latest-u ... -3tvTdz9/A

61161 described as Colchester but not likely
https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Latest-u ... -Sm4PttX/A

Your help with these would be appreciated.

Rgds,

Mike M.
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