Returning to Grantham

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Thanks for the tip-off MidlandExcursion (what an intriguing name!), I'll look out for that issue. Whenever I'm reminded of Zoom lollies I think of the wasps I had to ward off to get at the discarded wrappers that still potentially contained collectable cards (i.e. they hadn't been dis-carded; ouch!).
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The following article appeared on the website of the "Grantham Journal" over the past few days :- http://www.granthamj...ntion-1-6795692

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A quick request for help, if I may?

As some watching on the 'other channel' will be aware, I'm currently building a model of the old coaling stage at the depot and my simple question is this: was the water tank that sat on top at the south end of the structure covered or not? The excellent photos on the RTG website have been a great help in getting the details right of the west elevation but - somewhat understandably - no views looking over the top of the tank(!)

If it was covered then how? (flat or pitched? felted cover? etc) I can see (from the RTG pics) a ladder up to the top and some staging; also a large pipe running up the side (presumably the supply pipe from the water softener?)

Any details such as these would be gratefully received. If there is no definitive answer (for now) then I'll model it as open - I can always add a cover later!
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Maybe this could provide a clue although not very clear?
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Thanks.

I have already looked at that but found it inconclusive! The picture could be 'read' both ways, although I'm tempted to hedge towards it being an open top and the light-ish colouring in fact being the reflection of the sun on the level water surface on a bright day (tank nice n full as it would no doubt be in the middle of the day when there wasn't too much shed activity). I also checked the top of the water tank that was at the back of the station and it has a similar appearance.

If it was covered, then one would have thought that it would have been a gently sloping configuration (hipped?), which would show up as different shades of light on the photo?

Be nice to hear from someone who's shinned up that ladder and knows for sure!
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Sorry to be a little slow on the uptake on this one.

My hunch is that these water tanks were open and were painted white (or some very light colour) inside - or possibly the whiteness was a deposit which resulted from the water treatment process.

There's some slender evidence for this (aside from the various aerial photos):

1. Absence of cover: There's a drawing dated 1884 of the 'South Tank House' at Grantham (the one next to the Up slow/goods line, south of the Great North Road bridge) on the Network Rail website here:

http://nr.mediastorehouse.com/gnr-grant ... 82145.html

No cover is shown. The internal bracing arrangements are shown, however, and also three pipes (6" for supply, 8" main for [water] crane, 6" for overflow)

I've seen exterior photos of railway water tanks with covers (e.g. on the GWR) and the covers are quite obvious from ground level, having a curved profile.

2. Absence of cover and (maybe) light coloured interior: The TV programme The Restoration Man covered the adaptation of the railway water tower at Settle. It can be seen here:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the- ... /50459-005

There are shots inside the tank in its unaltered condition beginning at 04:35 and 06:06, and you could persuade yourself that there are remnants of light coloured paint on the inside surfaces. There is also no sign of there ever having been a cover. Also a good one for the staying to brace the sides of the tank against the water pressure.

The above is certainly not to be relied upon, but it's my best guess for now.
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Thanks for thoughts John!
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Thanks,Simon.
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Can anyone shed any more light in the Return To Grantham website?

This message appeared a few days ago,

"Posted on March 1, 2016

Unfortunately the website was subject to an unauthorised access in the early hours of 27th February, and as a result we are currently reviewing matters.

Whilst I review things, there will be no further updates to the website.

Any queries should be forwarded to me at isimpson@returntograntham.co.uk.

Issue 3 of the Return to Grantham Magazine is still available at the Lineside Photographics website, and the Return to Grantham FaceBook Group is free to join."

It seems to be rather a dramatic turn of events, but not being computer savvy I have no idea how anyone can (or would want to) gain access to an excellent and informative website of this kind.
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SS its a cross us moderators have to bear especially on FB, myself or my other moderators check every applicant to join our site and we rail site moderators even have our own group to notify suspicious traffic to each other, The attackers are either advertisers or porn pedlars, touch wood we have kept a pretty tight ship.
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Thanks 52D. It does seem very sad that other people with no connection to railways, history or enthusiasts can suddenly ruin what was becoming a great resource. I hope the RtG magazine does not suffer; I bought the first three and they were very good.
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John et al,

I haven't logged on the forum for a while, but have just seen your post re the Return to Grantham website and magazine, so I thought that I would just clarify the situation a little. Unfortunately this was an internal (not external) issue; the result of which is that the project has an uncertain future to say the least!

The website has been "frozen", for want of a better description, until such time as I can figure out what to do. I am going to keep the magazine going, although whether I have the resources to keep the focus just to Grantham is also unknown at this time.

I have put out a few feelers for help with the project, so hope that something can be sorted in the near future. The big losers in all of this sorry tale are the retired railwaymen (associated with Grantham Shed/station) and the enthusiasts who attended the bi-annual meetings in Grantham.

If anybody feels that they can contribute to keeping the project alive (meetings, website and magazine) please drop me a PM.

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Hi,I wonder if someone on here might be able to say if this image of A4 Class No 60010 was taken at Grantham? I thought it might be at Retford but Steve Eagling left a message on my website that he thought it was Grantham. No date on the slide mount. Any information much appreciated. Next to the A4 we have 02 Class No 63936. thanks Simon.


http://simonlathlane.zenfolio.com/
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Having viewed perhaps many hundreds of "Grantham" photographs and also having a certain knowledge of the geography of the place, my own opinion is that this image was not taken at Grantham.

It would be very interesting to find out where it was taken though as it's a very nice picture!
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I agree with "Iron Duke", I'm sure this A4 is not at Grantham in this photo.

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