New Page: Locomotive & Rolling Stock Liveries

[richard]

I've just added a new page describing the LNER's locomotive and rolling stock liveries:

http://www.lner.info/article/liveries/livery.shtml

The main intention with this page, is to lay the ground for adding livery information to the locomotive pages (I can refer to "standard red-line black" for instance and only spend time explaining the exceptions); and to add livery information for the Constituent Company pages (which are slowly progressing).

It is notoriously difficult to add reliable colour swatches on a computer screen - especially for historic liveries like this. However, I might try to do this with some of the constituent companies. Colour pictures may also be added at a future date.

Richard

[Tom Quayle]

Well laid out and valued information, nice one richard!

[Kyle1987]

A modeler's dream! Brilliant work Richard!

[jwealleans]

Just read through it, Richard - very good indeed. A couple of omissions, if I may: I didn't see any mention of the colour of pipes on through piped vehicles and you haven't covered containers.

[richard]

That would be my source material at fault

Containers were brown (a dark brown rather than bauxite?) I believe?

And pipes? Did their colour depend on the type?


Richard

[jwealleans]

I'll have to look through Haresnape to be sure I'm accurate, but containers were mainly blue (bauxite ones have been proven) and through pipes were either red or white. I'll be back when I have firm info.

[jwealleans]

Having read through Brian Haresnape's book last night, one or two additional comments.

He doesn't mention through pipes. I'l have to have a wider read around - perhaps someone else can put their finger on a source of information?

I'd forgotten, but goods stock differed depending on whether the solebars were steel or wooden. Wooden solebars were painted body colour, steel ones were black. White wheel rims were only for photographs.

Containers are a minefield. They started as bauxite, it seems, but some were then painted dark grey (? - no idea what shade) and then dark blue was adopted. Refrigerated/insulated ones were white and there were also some polished aluminium ones.

BH also had a section for horseboxes and NPCCS, which isn't explicitly covered on the page. Teak brown paint, the same as used for older carriage stock, was used. Some vehicles (the BY I'm building ATM, e.g.) were in the varnished teak finish, but most were painted.

A further point (I feel as if I'm being terribly critical, Richard - I hope you're not offended) is the change in lettering style after 1936. Perhaps we can look at that after you've taken on board what I've already mentioned.

[richard]

I've added the updates. Not sure how I missed the solebar thing. I've also found container pictures in Tatlows - he has examples of the blue, brown, and refrigerated. We'll probably have to wait until Vol. 4 is published for a full account of the container liveries used.


Richard