NER Autocar - restoration progress

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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by West_Stanley » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:47 pm

Where did the autocoach come from and how did it survive into preservation? Does it have its original chassis and bogies? Is it the same type that was photographed at Ponteland?

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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by Autocar Publicity » Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:41 pm

The autocoach came to us from Levisham, the NE coach group on the NYMR kindly donated it to us. The chassis is 'original' - I don't know about Ponteland, if you can provide a photo or link, I or one of our members/supporters should be able to say.

Earlier posts in this thread have more details about the coach, as has Issue 7 (page 10) of our newsletter - http://www.electricautocar.co.uk/newsletter.html

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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by Autocar Publicity » Sun Oct 05, 2014 4:57 pm

And 3453 emerged from the shed last Friday with a bit of shunting. These two photos are courtesy of Wendy Anderson.
Autocoach - 3rd October 2014 - ER1 (Wendy Anderson).jpg
Autocoach - 3rd October 2014 - ER2 (Wendy Anderson).jpg
As you can see, it's looking good. There's still lots to do (insert usual invitation for volunteers...) but the coach is certainly coming on. I wrote a short update for Moorslines with some more photos a few days ago, so NYMR members will be updated on the coach which for so many years was at Levisham. For our members, I plan to do the next newsletter later this month, with it arriving on doormats probably early November(ish). For this forum, I'll have a think about recent developments and do a more comprehensive update shortly.

If you would like to support this project and can't volunteer at Embsay or Loughborough, then financial contributions are always welcome, however you make them, also there's all sorts of 'odd little things' you can do, whether it's word of mouth publicity with your friends and family, bidding on any E-Bay items we're selling off or selling unwanted items and donating the proceeds to us (as above). Historical research could also be useful, though do talk to us first to ensure we don't duplicate effort.

Our thanks for the support forum members have already given and shown, it is much appreciated. One more effort and I hope in around 12 months, we'll have a 'new' Edwardian multiple unit...

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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by Blink Bonny » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:04 pm

Looking good!
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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by Rlangham » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:34 pm

Awesome!
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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by Autocar Publicity » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:37 pm

Thanks chaps!

The latest newsletter (no. 24) has just gone to press. The electronic copies should have been received this afternoon (and I know some have already been read!), hard copies, probably arriving mid-November depending on printing and posting. We were going to hold the newsletter a couple of weeks until the chassis was married to the powerunit and we had a photo of this, for the front cover, however, it looked like this may take a bit longer, so we decided to get the newsletter out. Maybe next issue we'll have a picture of the autocar being tested?

We've been talking a lot recently about the engineering and fund-raising, well, this newsletter explains most of it. There's the usual reports, a Q&A session with Stephen about the project running over budget and what we're planning to do, and, in the latest in the series of design perspectives, a look at the engine, the heart of the revived autocar.

I haven't forgotten I owe the forum a detailed update, but I'm in a little run of back to back exhibitions, so things are a bit busy right now. Too many 80 hour weeks!

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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by Autocar Publicity » Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:28 pm

I'm back! It really is frightening, the way time skips past. I log in and find the last post mentions the last newsletter, when I'm thinking about starting collation and production of the next issue next week... :oops:

Work on the autocoach has continued and the doors are now all attached and equipped with locks and handles. It is likely that this coach will become operational this year, though certain things (such as floor coverings and lining) will have to wait until the autocar is back at Embsay and operational.

Down at Loughborough, the engine housing assembly has left our unit for the last time and been attached to the chassis. This has now gone in the shed for various parts to be attached and/or connected. Hopefully, we'll be testing in a couple of months.

Sponsume has now finished but we're still welcoming donations and you'd still be eligible for 'donors' rewards'.

Now, a few photos, courtesy of Peter van Houten:
EH arr LGCR.jpg
EH craning.jpg
Chassis at LGCR.jpg
Chassis alongide OC.jpg

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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by Autocar Publicity » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:15 pm

We now have a Facebook page courtesy of our Secretary. If you spend time there, we're at https://www.facebook.com/nerelectricaut ... =bookmarks - please 'like' us or share us or whatever else FB members do.

On the subject of social media, I did sign us up to Twitter last year, but more as a positioning move than anything else. (We're at https://twitter.com/1903_autocar and if you are a Twitter user, again, please show us your support).

Back in the 'real' world, on the autocoach, we've been working on replacement headstocks. Some seats have also gone in - I had hoped to take a few photos today but am recovering from this winter's bug and didn't make it in. I did manage to get some newsletter and other writing bits done though. All this experience at juggling and balancing for the newsletter, I'm going to have to run away to the circus...

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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by Autocar Publicity » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:05 pm

Well, newsletter nearly ready, just needs the final touches next week.

Now, a puzzle over names:

We’ve always believed the autocars were called such after NER push-pull autotrains. But, having done a bit of reading, it appears push-pull/autotrains only began in (mid - late?) 1904... and on the GWR, was it not 1905 when the NER started running them?

I have a copy of an article 11th February 1904 which calls our vehicles autocars – which is a second piece of evidence suggesting that explanation cannot be correct. So where did the name come from? I've seen some contemporary sources refer to them as 'railmotor coaches' and/or 'Mr Worsdell's self-propelled coaches'. Some original plans refer to them as 'motor coaches', presumably following the pattern of the original Tyneside Electrics classification.

I could believe that ‘cars’ came from tram cars, as they did look very similar. But the ‘auto’ part?

Any ideas?

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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by mick b » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:32 am

Auto short for Automated meaning mechanised ?

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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by Autocar Publicity » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:41 pm

It's been suggested this morning that auto in this context means 'self', therefore a car/carriage that moves by itself. Certainly similar to 'Mr W's self propelled carriages'. It's quite possible the term could have been something of an American term, possibly even the 'train station' of its day... :oops: :(

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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by richard » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:14 pm

In the US, "Autocar" was a company / brand name, but they made road vehicles.

Slightly pre-dates the NER vehicles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autocar_Company
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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by Autocar Publicity » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:20 pm

I wonder if we could get sponsorship... Whenever I Google "Autocar" here, it wants to take me to a certain magazine's web-site.

Anyway, the newsletter's sent off to the printers and was e-mailed out this morning, so it should be in people's inboxes now and on their doormats in 2-3 weeks time. We've some articles already for next time, including a short piece proposing a [fairly convincing] theory explaining the name issue mentioned above. I'm quietly hopeful that by next time the Autocar will be living up to its name and we'll have some photos of it moving under its own power. No promises but fingers crossed...

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Re: NER Autocar - restoration progress

Post by Autocar Publicity » Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:52 pm

The [hard copy] newsletter should be with members by now. (If not, let me know).

Four photos of the autocoach, showing some of the work done recently.
headstocks before.jpg
headstocks after.jpg
One end has been replaced (and after the photo was taken, I swapped camera for paintbrush and applied some primer). We hope a shunt this weekend will give us access to the other end to work on.
seats - first.jpg
seats - third.jpg
Most of the seats have been installed, these two frames show the first and a third class compartment.

Off camera, various pieces of beading have been cut for the interior, work on the door frames & locks has progressed and lots* of painting has been done. The stepboard for one side has been partially installed and primed. Work continues on the droplights, with good days and not so good days...**

* Lots and lots - some of our volunteers are dreaming of brushes and painting. I'd better not say what I dream of ...

** See the difference between activity and achievement - some days you do really well and some days Fate just is not smiling on you...

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