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Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:51 pm
by richard
Isn't "Lord of the Isles" a very Great Western name?
Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:22 pm
by mr B
richard wrote:I don't think the Duke has expressed any interest in steam locomotives? The Prince has.
If we were rebuilding a replica ship I think it would be the other way around - the Duke has strong naval connections, but I don't think the Prince has gone beyond what is expected as a heir?
sorry for a quick change of subject but whats(any) the news on the Aussie/China build Titanic 2 ?
mr B
Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:58 pm
by Mickey
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Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:33 am
by IJhull
mr B wrote:
sorry for a quick change of subject but whats(any) the news on the Aussie/China build Titanic 2 ?
mr B
This was news to me - didn't believe it at first till I googled it - it goes to show just how odd the antics of railway fans might appear to the wider world.. Still likely a massive money spinner if it gets built.. Much more so than the P2, ..or the Matthew Stirling H&BR class B (J23) suggested above
I understand Hornby made a profit from Tornado, the A1 trust - no so sure..
Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:07 pm
by richard
More P2 News. Here's the beginning of the press release (the rest is the usual background stuff):
A NEW FIRE-BREATHING DRAGON IS BORN ON ST GEORGE’S DAY
New steam locomotive No. 2007 Prince of Wales makes history with the rolling of frames at Tata Steel in Scunthorpe
Coinciding with St George’s Day, a new fire-breathing dragon was born in the rolling mills of Tata Steel in Scunthorpe yesterday. The dragon in question is no lightweight but the 21 ton steel frames for a new steam locomotive which will eventually weigh around 170 tons being built by the same team behind famous new steam locomotive No. 60163 Tornado, completed in 2008 and paid for by public subscription. The new locomotive is Gresley P2 Class No. 2007 Prince of Wales and the rolling of the frames, traditionally the point at which the locomotive is deemed to exist, comes hot on the heels of TV presenter James May making the first component – the smokebox dart - in Darlington Locomotive Works on Thursday 20th February 2014.
http://www.p2steam.com for details, donations, etc.
Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:34 pm
by 60527
Great news, great project, shame about the name.
Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:24 am
by Bill Bedford
Does this mean they are going to paint it blackberry black?
Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:53 am
by sawdust
People might not like the name 'Prince of Wales', however if another name had been chosen then the frame plates might not have been rolled quite so speedily.
Sawdust.
Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:30 am
by 60527
sawdust wrote:People might not like the name 'Prince of Wales', however if another name had been chosen then the frame plates might not have been rolled quite so speedily.
Sawdust.
Is that in case the old lady croaks it before the engine is built?
Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:06 am
by Mickey
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Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:23 pm
by sawdust
60527 wrote:sawdust wrote:People might not like the name 'Prince of Wales', however if another name had been chosen then the frame plates might not have been rolled quite so speedily.
Sawdust.
Is that in case the old lady croaks it before the engine is built?
Don't be ridiculous! The royal connection carry's a lot of weight, with say the foreign owners of a large international steel company for example.
Sawdust.
Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:44 pm
by Trestrol
60527 wrote:sawdust wrote:People might not like the name 'Prince of Wales', however if another name had been chosen then the frame plates might not have been rolled quite so speedily.
Sawdust.
Is that in case the old lady croaks it before the engine is built?
No, because the title "Prince of Wales" passes to the next in line to the throne so there is always a Prince of Wales. Don't know what would have happened if George had been a girl mind. I think Duke of Rothsay would have been better and more in keeping with the previous engines. but lets say that this P2 is the first of the English batch that Gresley was about to build. Also having read how much the difference in donations is between the two groups building a P2 i think one may fall by the wayside unfortunately.
Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:44 pm
by LNER4479
It is being announced during the P2 roadshows that the loco will carry 'Duke of Rothsay' nameplates when it runs in Scotland (subject to palace approval)
http://newbuildsteam.com/2014/03/08/rep ... -8th-2014/
Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:55 pm
by mick b
It also states that Hornby will be doing a version of POW as well
Re: New P2 to be named 'Prince of Wales'
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:42 pm
by Mercator II
Latest Update from The P2SLC
(all is copied from the P2 web written by Graham Langer)
'William Cook Cast Products Ltd, whose plants specialise in the design and manufacture of steel castings for all industrial purposes, will make the pattern equipment, cast and machine Prince of Wales' eight 6ft 2in diameter driving wheels on very advantageous terms. WCCP is the principal sponsor of No. 60163 Tornado. The company provided all of the steel castings for Tornado and leases her tender to the Trust. In return, The A1 Steam Locomotive Trust will continue to provide William Cook Cast Products with appropriate publicity and access as accords a major sponsor of No. 2007 Prince of Wales. The commercial price for the eight driving wheels is in excess of £100,000.'
The full artical can be found here:
http://www.p2steam.com/news/current-news
Very exciting news, I can almost smell the steam already!!
So with the frames getting laid next month, if you want to get on board and become a Founders Club Member, you had better hurry as it will close once the open days are held at Hopetown Works
http://www.p2steam.com/how-you-can-help/founders-club
or for the price of a pint (in the North East anyway) become a regular donor
http://www.p2steam.com/how-you-can-help ... -donations
Together we can make it happen faster
oOo
Brian