Re: Bananas and fish ??
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:26 am
Has anybody managed to find the above mentioned "Harry's not quite model album" please? If so, would they care to share a link? I've drawn a blank.
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The LNER designed new fish vans to dia214 which started to appear at nationalisation. The first diagram of BR "Blue Spots" dia800 is virtually identical although they did not have roller bearings. These would do for the 1946-49 trsin along with some older types.S.A.C. Martin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:06 pm Really interesting thoughts here gents. Thank you to everyone who has replied!
So follow up question - if it's just LNER vans in a fish train, is it really likely that you only get two diagrams of LNER fish vans in a train...? So more constituent and common user vans required?
What kits/models should I be looking at to add to my fish train (ECML, V2 hauled) - I think my 1946-49 era layout is likely too early for blue spot wagons almost certainly, do I need to look at converting a few of the old Hornby H&B style vans for use in the train...?
I must get a copy of the necessary Tatlow volumes.
That's interesting. So if I modified a few Hornby Blue Spot wagons to have the oil bearing type axleboxes, that would produce a dia214 effectively? Failing that - build the parkside dia 800 wagon?Trestrol wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:50 pmThe LNER designed new fish vans to dia214 which started to appear at nationalisation. The first diagram of BR "Blue Spots" dia800 is virtually identical although they did not have roller bearings. These would do for the 1946-49 trsin along with some older types.S.A.C. Martin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:06 pm Really interesting thoughts here gents. Thank you to everyone who has replied!
So follow up question - if it's just LNER vans in a fish train, is it really likely that you only get two diagrams of LNER fish vans in a train...? So more constituent and common user vans required?
What kits/models should I be looking at to add to my fish train (ECML, V2 hauled) - I think my 1946-49 era layout is likely too early for blue spot wagons almost certainly, do I need to look at converting a few of the old Hornby H&B style vans for use in the train...?
I must get a copy of the necessary Tatlow volumes.
Yes should be quite easy although the check the side framing as the second BR batch dia 801 had extra external framing.S.A.C. Martin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:26 amThat's interesting. So if I modified a few Hornby Blue Spot wagons to have the oil bearing type axleboxes, that would produce a dia214 effectively? Failing that - build the parkside dia 800 wagon?Trestrol wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:50 pmThe LNER designed new fish vans to dia214 which started to appear at nationalisation. The first diagram of BR "Blue Spots" dia800 is virtually identical although they did not have roller bearings. These would do for the 1946-49 trsin along with some older types.S.A.C. Martin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:06 pm Really interesting thoughts here gents. Thank you to everyone who has replied!
So follow up question - if it's just LNER vans in a fish train, is it really likely that you only get two diagrams of LNER fish vans in a train...? So more constituent and common user vans required?
What kits/models should I be looking at to add to my fish train (ECML, V2 hauled) - I think my 1946-49 era layout is likely too early for blue spot wagons almost certainly, do I need to look at converting a few of the old Hornby H&B style vans for use in the train...?
I must get a copy of the necessary Tatlow volumes.
I note the NYMR has one of these 1948 built wagons being restored.
Good shout, though hopefully won't affect my builds as I am LNER 1946-49 and there will only be a few of these in the train as a result.Trestrol wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:44 pmYes should be quite easy although the check the side framing as the second BR batch dia 801 had extra external framing.S.A.C. Martin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:26 amThat's interesting. So if I modified a few Hornby Blue Spot wagons to have the oil bearing type axleboxes, that would produce a dia214 effectively? Failing that - build the parkside dia 800 wagon?Trestrol wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:50 pm
The LNER designed new fish vans to dia214 which started to appear at nationalisation. The first diagram of BR "Blue Spots" dia800 is virtually identical although they did not have roller bearings. These would do for the 1946-49 trsin along with some older types.
I note the NYMR has one of these 1948 built wagons being restored.
LNER dia 214 and BR 1/800 are to all intents and purposes the same bar the numbering. The roller bearing aspect is a detail, only some 1/800s were so fitted and it wasn't from newS.A.C. Martin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:26 am
That's interesting. So if I modified a few Hornby Blue Spot wagons to have the oil bearing type axleboxes, that would produce a dia214 effectively? Failing that - build the parkside dia 800 wagon?
Good to know, thanks for the heads up. I had better finish the ones I was building!Pennine MC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:18 pmLNER dia 214 and BR 1/800 are to all intents and purposes the same bar the numbering. The roller bearing aspect is a detail, only some 1/800s were so fitted and it wasn't from newS.A.C. Martin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:26 am
That's interesting. So if I modified a few Hornby Blue Spot wagons to have the oil bearing type axleboxes, that would produce a dia214 effectively? Failing that - build the parkside dia 800 wagon?