13 Ton Steel Open Goods Wagon

[mossie]

I am looking for an LNER kit or RTR model of the 13 Ton Steel Open Goods Wagon in 4mm scale/'00' to use in early BR guise.

I have seen the Parkside Dundas kit and the RTR Bachmann 38-325, but these are both the BR version. Can I use one of these to represent the LNER version or are the differences to great.

Thanks in advance for any help.

[mick b]

Bachmann do/did do the High Steel version in LNER Grey livery. The BR versions just need new decals.

[cctransuk]

The early LNER steel opens has wooden doors and no lashing ring 'dimples'; it depends which version you wish to represent.

Regards,
John Isherwood.

[mossie]

Thanks for the replies, it has given me a couple of options.

From the picture I have, which is not too clear, I think it has wooden doors.

[65447]

The early LNER steel opens has wooden doors and no lashing ring 'dimples'; it depends which version you wish to represent.

Regards,
John Isherwood.

Wooden door/steel door, no dimples/dimples - all built within a relatively short space of time post-WW2. Tatlow LNER Wagons volume 4A p52 et seq.

[D2100]

The early LNER steel opens has wooden doors and no lashing ring 'dimples'; it depends which version you wish to represent.

Regards,
John Isherwood.

Wooden door/steel door, no dimples/dimples - all built within a relatively short space of time post-WW2. Tatlow LNER Wagons volume 4A p52 et seq.

Indeed. AFAIK the wooden door ones were all built unfitted and all but a few of the steel doors had the 8 shoe vac gear.

I wouldn't have thought the dimples would be too hard to remove - flush them off on the outside, fill and flatten the inside. Or the OP could look for the original Parkside kit - even more originally an Iain Kirk one - which is still around and doesn't have them at all. It's cruder though.

And strictly speaking, the steel door ones should have chequerplate on the inside ...

[mossie]

Thanks for the additional information.

Found my copy of Tatlow's this morning and also my copy of David Larkin's book "Wagons of the Early British Railways Era - A Pictorial Study of the 1948-1954 Period". The wagon in the picture, which is said to date to April 1949, has dimples which means steel doors and braked. So I should be able to use the Bachmann model and give it a repaint, LNER grey and new decals.

[31A]

If (vacuum) braked, the LNER would have painted it brown rather than grey ...