0-6-0 saddle tank

This forum is for the discussion of railway modelling of the LNER and its constituent companies.

Moderators: 52D, Tom F, Rlangham, Atlantic 3279, Blink Bonny, Saint Johnstoun, richard

User avatar
kimballthurlow
GCR D11 4-4-0 'Improved Director'
Posts: 433
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:58 am
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Contact:

0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by kimballthurlow »

I purchased a brand new Electrotren HO scale tank engine from a dealer in Germany (bwbahn.de), and it was only 34.99 Euros, which seems terribly cheap.
Maybe others might be interested to bash the mechanism for any LNER or constituent loco of similar wheel arrangement.
Image
Model is product code E0042, and I can provide major dimensions for anyone interested.
Kimball
65447
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 1748
Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:44 pm
Location: Overlooking the GEML

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by 65447 »

So why not be really helpful and provide the wheelbase and wheel diameter etc. in your original post?
Dave S
GNSR D40 4-4-0
Posts: 248
Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:46 pm

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by Dave S »

kimballthurlow wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:22 am Model is product code E0042, and I can provide major dimensions for anyone interested.
Kimball
Yes please. Wheels and wheelbase.

Out of interest What's the motor?
User avatar
Atlantic 3279
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 6537
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:51 am
Location: 2850, 245

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by Atlantic 3279 »

Other questions might include things such as where's the motor, how does it run, how deep are those wheel flanges, is the BTB suitable and can it be adjusted if necessary.
If it's HO it might be small enough to go under a J62 body...
Most subjects, models and techniques covered in this thread are now listed in various categories on page1

Dec. 2018: Almost all images that disappeared from my own thread following loss of free remote hosting are now restored.
4812
LNER J94 0-6-0ST Austerity
Posts: 47
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:18 pm

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by 4812 »

I've no other information but, apart from the closed-in cab sides and the mini-bunker, this loco looks remarkably like Sharp Stewart 2927, built for Spain. There is a picture on Page 8 of 'British outline locos overseas' on the RM site.
User avatar
kimballthurlow
GCR D11 4-4-0 'Improved Director'
Posts: 433
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:58 am
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Contact:

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by kimballthurlow »

65447 wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:46 pm So why not be really helpful and provide the wheelbase and wheel diameter etc. in your original post?
Because 65447, I don't have the time to be helpful unless you are interested.
It is a public forum and others have shown a courtesy in asking, so here we go:
Made in China - with NEM coupler receptacles.
Die-cast chassis, with die-cast boiler weight in a plastic body shell.
  • Wheelbase front to rear 20.4 and 23.7mm.
  • Coned wheel diameter at face 13.8mm.
  • Depth of flange 1mm.
  • Back to back 14.2mm. Not sure about adjustment.
Motor is a simple open frame drum commutator type, permanent magnet, 3 pole armature.
The motor drives the front axle by a brass worm on a plastic gear. There is no flywheel, but the worm is substantial.
Runs very sweetly, but I did not test start voltage etc, as I don't have the tools.
Picture of motor. Note the 6 pin decoder receptacle.
Image

Kimball
Last edited by kimballthurlow on Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:20 am, edited 6 times in total.
User avatar
kimballthurlow
GCR D11 4-4-0 'Improved Director'
Posts: 433
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:58 am
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Contact:

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by kimballthurlow »

4812 wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:37 pm I've no other information but, apart from the closed-in cab sides and the mini-bunker, this loco looks remarkably like Sharp Stewart 2927, built for Spain. There is a picture on Page 8 of 'British outline locos overseas' on the RM site.
Hi 4812,
Thanks for that information.
Appendages which could be fabricated from sheet or bar steel were often added at the destination.

regards
Kimball
User avatar
Atlantic 3279
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 6537
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:51 am
Location: 2850, 245

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by Atlantic 3279 »

Many thanks for the details.
Most subjects, models and techniques covered in this thread are now listed in various categories on page1

Dec. 2018: Almost all images that disappeared from my own thread following loss of free remote hosting are now restored.
Dave S
GNSR D40 4-4-0
Posts: 248
Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:46 pm

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by Dave S »

Thanks for the info.

If I've worked that out correctly it's

5' 1 1/4" - 5' 11 1/4" for the wheelbase with a 3' 11 1/4" wheel.
User avatar
kimballthurlow
GCR D11 4-4-0 'Improved Director'
Posts: 433
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:58 am
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Contact:

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by kimballthurlow »

Dave S wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:35 am Thanks for the info.

If I've worked that out correctly it's

5' 1 1/4" - 5' 11 1/4" for the wheelbase with a 3' 11 1/4" wheel.
Hi Dave,
At 1:76, you are correct on the wheelbases, but 6" over on the wheel diameter.
By my calculations the wheel is 3' 5 1/4".

regards
Kimball
Dave S
GNSR D40 4-4-0
Posts: 248
Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:46 pm

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by Dave S »

kimballthurlow wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:41 am Hi Dave,
At 1:76, you are correct on the wheelbases, but 6" over on the wheel diameter.
By my calculations the wheel is 3' 5 1/4".

regards
Kimball
I am....what a muppet...I think I can see where I made a schoolboy error..
User avatar
Atlantic 3279
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 6537
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:51 am
Location: 2850, 245

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by Atlantic 3279 »

Unfortunately a bit short in the front wheelbase department to suit use under a J62, and that motor is clearly too broad to hide properly in the fully exposed lower part of the width of a small boiler on a saddle tank engine - as is evident from the slab sides added to the enormously long firebox portrayal on the Electrotren body moulding. A pity - although it might do under a J63 if the wheelbase were ignored. I already have a full kit for a J63 though.....

Can't win 'em all.
Most subjects, models and techniques covered in this thread are now listed in various categories on page1

Dec. 2018: Almost all images that disappeared from my own thread following loss of free remote hosting are now restored.
DS239
LNER N2 0-6-2T
Posts: 58
Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:17 pm

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by DS239 »

The chassis would be 'near enough' for a J88, I would think..
User avatar
kimballthurlow
GCR D11 4-4-0 'Improved Director'
Posts: 433
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:58 am
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Contact:

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by kimballthurlow »

Thank you Dave S, Atlantic 3279 and DS239.
My original purchase of this locomotive was motivated entirely by the price, due to its being shipped with another item which I wanted.
I don't model Spanish railways, though I can use this with other European stuff.

Its likeness to British engines appealed to me, and this possibility has been confirmed by 4812.
(Can a possibility be confirmed?).
Anyway I appreciate the interest shown and observations made, and I hope someone can make use of the information.

Kimball
Last edited by kimballthurlow on Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
manna
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 3793
Joined: Sun May 24, 2009 12:56 am
Location: All over Australia

Re: 0-6-0 saddle tank

Post by manna »

G'Day Gents

with a bit of work, a handy little industrial loco could appear.

manna
EDGWARE GN, Steam in the Suburbs.
Post Reply