GCR coaches in OO

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GCR coaches in OO

Post by Chris Grouse » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:42 pm

Are there any GCR coaches available in OO? Don’t mind building kits as long as they don’t cost a fortune.
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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by JASd17 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:28 pm

Do you mind building brass kits? That is the material many are etched with.

D&S models many many years ago did some plastic kits. They come up very occasionally on the usual sites.

Not sure whether some are available as 3D prints??

None of this is 'cheap'.

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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by Chris Grouse » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:29 pm

I’m happy to try a brass kit tbh
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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by mick b » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:47 pm

Jidenco and Perseverance ,both etched.


If you can find any, cheap isn't a option.

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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by exile » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:27 pm

Bill Bedford - Mousa.biz - has a number of etched sides leaving you to do quite a bit of work, but these are available now unlike many of the other offerings, that rely on a lucky strike on an auction site or the bottom of a traders box of bits at an exhibition.

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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by jwealleans » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:04 am

I was told (by the man himself) that Bill also has a project to make some GC carriages in his current resin range.

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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by notascoobie » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:06 am

mick b wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:47 pm
Jidenco and Perseverance ,both etched.


If you can find any, cheap isn't a option.
If you find any Jidenco ones beware. At least some were etched back to front. The most obvious sign is the the door handles are on the left.

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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by 2512silverfox » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:40 am

I am not sure if they are in the current list but D&S did produce kits for several of the Parker GC London extension stock. They have been seen on Ebay but he may still do batches possibly for the GC Society.

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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by Atlantic 3279 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:50 am

Old type, short, Triang / Hornby clerestories with alterations to details of sides, ends and bogies, plus new underframe fittings and new roofs, masquerading (fairly effectively I hope) as Edwardian GC non-corridor / suburban stock. A cheap way to start and to practice some modelling skills if you happen to have suitable access to some of these old coaches. A better result than I achieved is possible if you also replace the bogies with proper Fox ones, rather than just disguise the Mk1 bogies, and if you narrow down the bodies, but that's rather more work:
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Jidenco / Falcon Brass parts, with modifications and a lot of bits from other sources or home-made, built up into GC Barnum coaches. Not the place to start unless you really like a challenge and can see it through to a worthwhile standard - otherwise you may just be wasting your time, your money, and using up parts that could have found better uses:
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In neither case are these the kind of thing I'd have time to repeat these days - other modelling tasks and the wider demands of life fill my time.
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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by UpDistant » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:20 am

Worsley Works also do sides, ends and floor only etches for the Parker 45' coaches for the "London Extension" sets - http://www.worsleyworks.co.uk/4mm/4mm_LNER_Pregroup.htm.

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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by James Harrison » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:14 pm

There are some silhouette cutter files for download on RMWeb for a Barnum open saloon: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index. ... avenhouse/ They're on that thread, around page 20- page 30, plus some files for the same carriage for a laser cutter.

I drew up some sides for a few of the clerestory carriages, the intention being that they're grafted onto the old Triang/ Hornby clerestory bodies. So far I've done a brake third and an all third and I have plans to do one or two more- a lavatory composite and I think maybe a brake composite too- but they're a project for another time. I'd be happy to give you copies of the drawing files for the two types I have done though, if you like?

Like Atlantic I've got a few re-roofed Hornby clerestories and they do look quite convincing.

If you can find some, the Grafar mainline and suburban carriages also look quite GCR-ish. I've done a rake of each and with a suitable repaint and the matchboarding drawn on they rather look the part for the later Robinson-designed stock.

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If you can find them, the old Triang Caley coaches can also be cut down and turned into respectable facsimilies of the post-Parker, pre-Robinson 50' mainline stock of the early Edwardian period. Here are a few I built last year.

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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by ArthurK » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:30 pm

Jidenco did two Barnum coaches, one a brake. They also did 60' Mainline matchboard stock.
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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by Skaran » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:22 am

Resurrecting this thread a bit I have some Bill Bedford GCR coaches to build, notably 3A7, 3L4, 3Q2, and 3B5. I was wondering if anyone can tell me what bogies these would have been fitted with and if there are any publications which would give some details of these vehicles (especially as they would have appeared 1912/1913)?

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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by billbedford » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:00 am

They all had 10'6" bogies

You can't go wrong looking through Dow's Great Central Vol3 and his Great Central Album. Sadly both are out of print, but are not uncommon.
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Re: GCR coaches in OO

Post by Atlantic 3279 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:40 pm

Useful works Barnum drawings (not ideally reproduced) and information also in "J. G Robinson - a lifetime's work" by the late David Jackson, a VERY handy book to have.
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