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UpDistant
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Those of a North Eastern persuasion may be interested in some coach "scratch aids" released by Allan Doherty at Worsley Works http://www.worsleyworks.co.uk/4mm/4mm_LNER_Pregroup.htm.

These are ex-NER 52" clerestory coaches: Diagram 14, T(8), Diagram 74 CL(2:4), Diagram 76 BT(4), and Diagram 77 BT(5). All consist of sides, end, floor, and clerestory roof. It is unclear whether the clerestory roof is the whole job or just the clerestory sides - one way to find out!

Diagram 14 was the most numerous with at least 25 being converted to Diagram 116 Driving BC(1:5) ideal for use with the forthcoming G5. Most were withdrawn in the late 1940s and early 1950s. A dozen or so also made it into Departmental service.

Diagram 74 is also relevant to GE modellers as some were cascaded to the GE section and became (GE) diagrams 200E and 203E, withdrawal dates as for Diagram 14.

With the odd exception, Diagrams 76 and 77 remained in the NEA, withdrawal dates as previous.
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Are these different to the diagrams D & S do?
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From Dan's last full listing (2005), all of the clerestory stock were 52':

Diagram 5 CL(4:3),
Diagram 7 CLg(3:4),
Diagram 14 T(8),
Diagram 18 BT(3),
Diagram 26 BC(2:3),
Diagram 76 BT(4)

Duplicates in red, so diagrams 74 and 77 are new ones.
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Are you sure about the Diagram 76 BT (4)?

I do not think that was ever a Dan product. I think you are confused in what you are posting.

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JASd17 wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:11 pm Are you sure about the Diagram 76 BT (4)?

I do not think that was ever a Dan product. I think you are confused in what you are posting.

And beware, the Clerestory section of these carriages was not always the same.

John
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John

I think the confusion lies in Dan's list - DS187 is listed as Clerestory 5 Comp Van Third Dia 76. However, all other sources (Hoole/NERA etc) have Diagram 76 as BT(4) and Diagram 77 as BT(5). The kit is listed as having been produced, so what was it, 76 or 77? Does anyone have one, built or stashed away?

Regardless of what was previously available 14 years ago, it is still welcome to see new items when so many other ranges have disappeared.
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Re: New products

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Yes, You are correct Dan did list his 5-compartment brake third as Diagram 76 in his catalogue. As you suggest this is actually Diagram 77.

I have a letter from Dan somewhere confirming he did three compartment and five compartment BTs.

Agreed, any new North Eastern types are most welcome. The Diagram 76 is therefore a new type as well, very good for modellers of the NER Southern Division and Composition C 4-carriage sets in particular (D76-D5-D14-D76). These sets were still around into the 1940s.

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I've just finished the CAD drawings for the range of GNR six-wheelers, And have started the first prints.

The kits consist of:
  • Three major printed parts, roof, body and underframe.
  • Etched sprung w-irons.
  • Sliding centre axle.
  • Sprung buffers.
  • Drop-in windows.
  • Choice of brakes for P4/EM or 00
The range consists of:
BRK0429/4 D.303 B
BRK0429/4 D.303 B
BRK0446/4 D.245 T
BRK0446/4 D.245 T
BRK0447/4 D.281 BT
BRK0447/4 D.281 BT
BRK0448/4 D.146 CGl
BRK0448/4 D.146 CGl
Cont....
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...cont
BRK0449/4 D.154 CG
BRK0449/4 D.154 CG
BRK0462/4 D.301 B
BRK0462/4 D.301 B
BRK464/4 D.148 Cl
BRK464/4 D.148 Cl
Prices are £45.00 for the full brakes and £55.00 for the others.

They all can be ordered from the Mousa Models website
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Atlantic 3279
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Re: New products

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Good news, thanks Bill.
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Indeed, great news thanks Bill
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G'Day Gents

Like, Like, Like. :D

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Re: New products

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I hope to be able to report on Bill's carriages very soon. In the meantime, this caught my eye on the 51L stand at Doncaster on Sunday:

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More GC wagons are promised on Andrew's site.
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Bought one.
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Re: New products

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Well, I missed that on Saturday.

Too busy up the escalators (?)

Roll-on Scalefour North.

John
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