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Thanks for that information Paul.

I don't know what the reasons for all the changes were.

I just happened to start noticing the differences as I built Judith Edge tenders first for a B9 and now for a couple of J11s.

The kit suits a later tender and I'd thought I was doing well to notice the shorter coalplates for the B9. Now for the J11s the list of changes has got longer!

I've yet to do a self-trimming variant.

As many have observed before, so much for standard Robinson tender!

Regards,
Simon

Thanks for the comments Paul and further comments from Simon and Graeme. I do find this stuff really interesting and do try to get things as right as I can within my skill set.
As Graeme might recall we've been sharing our comments on GC loco models since sbout the time Graeme built his McGowan B4 and more frequently since the Bachmann O4 was released in 2009.

I have concentrated on using Bachmann tenders recently as I obtained 5 of their O4 tenders through a friend quite some years ago. Only problem then was that they came as bodies only - no frames or wheels! However, that's now been rectified via the recent Bachmann spares site.

I have a Judith Edge tender to go with my G Trains B3 and will be using a Bachmann self trimming type to go with the B7.

I recently completed doing up two more Bachmann J11s to give me a total of 4. One of these is more or less straight out of the box 5954 with LNER chimney but large Robinson dome and 4000 gallon tender purchased when significantly discounted by one of the 'box shifters'. The other is a Neilson build BR version which came secondhand minus smokebox door from a deceased estate here in Adelaide. Its now got a new smoke box door and is in LNER livery as 5985 I think (can't remember all the numbers can I!) with water pick up fitted. I'll post photos of these later. They join two of my earlier models where I chopped up two of the spare O4 tender bodies to make 3250 gallon tenders for 5311 and 5249.
Andrew

G'Day Andrew

A pair of good looking loco's, who hasn't got a soft spot for a J11.

manna

Thanks Terry.
I have actually run all 4 I have as a light engine movement - they looked great like that. Still contemplating if I can fit that into the operating schedule or not.

Where are you currently?

Andrew

Hi Andrew

I'm near Charters Tower, in Northern Queensland. A Lot warmer than SA. Beautifully Tropical.

Terry

Pom-Pom porn...

Hello Andrew, I've only just found this thread, beautiful work throughout!

Well overdue for an update!

I've finally more or less finished the D3 - it only needs glazing of spectacles and crew added. I've coaled it since I took this photo. One reason its taken so long is I wasn't happy with the paint finished after I sprayed it with my airbrush and I couldn't work out what was causing the paint to dry with a rough finish because as far as I could tell nothing had changed in how I used the airbrush. Anyway I stripped the tender and repainted that with a car rattle can. I rubbed the engine down and resprayed that with the rattle can. Then I found I couldn't get decent lines with the lining pen or bow pens. Finally I found after warming the paint and diluting it with white spirits (despite what the experts say about not needing to dilute Humbrol enamels for lining) and persevering with the best of the bow pens (after I undertook more honing of the blades) I got it lined to some degree of satisfaction - its far from perfect or as good as I had hoped but once its been lightly weathered I think it will be ok.

I gave it full operational trials last night at our running session and found on some track where it was marginally uneven the front bogie wheels were catching on the smear of araldite I had added to the underside of the footplate to stop any shorts due to the closeness to the underside of the w/m footplate. This was also causing a loss of traction in a couple of spots on the layout so after we'd finished I inserted 20 thou plastic card spacers to lift the body and tender on the chassis and this seems to have cured the issue. It now hauls twice what I had it hauling during the running session.
Now I need to finish the B8 and a range of other loco projects, some of which will need red lining!.

I've been working on a number of wagons this year so that has been a distraction from loco and carriage building. In an endeavour to build a longer meat train for the V2 I've been completing some of 'Phil Brightons' 3D printed LNER refrigerator vans and also GN vans. Phil sent me the files and a mate here who is just starting out in 3D with a resin printer has printed some examples for me - its all a work in progress but ultimately I'll have maybe up to 12-15 LNER refrigerator vans in the train. I've still got several of Amanda Moger's filament printed vans from Tasmania to complete - these require more work because I'm replacing the 3D printed hinges and corner plates with brass etches, and some of these will be built as the earlier Dia 20 timber framed versions. One thing I've just discovered is that the Dia 20 vans appear to have the end ventilators low down on the sides so I'll need to work out how to arrange that - I've only recently noted this in Geoff Goslin's book Goods Traffic of the LNER where on p23 there is a photo of K3 91 hauling a No 1 express goods. Immediately behind the tender is what appears to be an LNER Refrigerator Van. It has the twin ice hatches at each end of the roof (Tatlow says that Dia 20 has twin hatches each end) so I’m presuming its one of the first batch to Dia 20 with timber underframes and the interesting fact is that the end ventilators are low down on the ends. This is the only photo I’ve seen where I could say this is Dia 20 van.
I've also been adding a significant numbers of LMS vans so I can run a decent van train (30+) on the LMS part of the layout behind Claughton 6004 (apologies for mentioning this on this site!). This has also involved building some LMS refrigerator vans and insulated vans from Ratio BR banana vans.

Andrew

Nice to see a very patiently constructed D3 fully painted and handed over to the running department.

Very nice work all round Andrew

G'Day Gents

Hi Andrew, moving South, in Sapphire. Qld. Like your D3, always seem they are the 'Forgotten' 4-4-0, actually you hear very little about the GN's 4-4-0's

manna

Thanks Graeme, Chas and Terry for your comments.
Andrew

Hi Andrew,
Thanks for showing pictures of the D3 and the wagons. Very nice work.
I have not used the GN safety valve cover you sent a few years ago, but hope to use it on a GN engine project at some time.
It is also useful as a pattern from which I can turn other examples.

Kimball

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to show this but this was my attempt to modify an early K's J3 tender underframe.