Paul's workbench

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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by Atso » Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:28 pm

Wow that Atlantic isn't half looking good Paul!
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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by nzpaul » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:32 am

Thank you gentlemen, I have to say I'm fairly pleased with how it's turned out.
One last Photo before I move on to the tender, remaining parts fitted such as buffers, whistle and lubricator. Red lining to running plate and rear axle boxes with white lining on the buffer beam. I've done my best to get a front 3/4 shot but my camera never does a good job of these, always out of focus at one end or the other even with macro switched on.
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Also a photo of Abbotsford showing the lubricator drive I'll need to fabricate myself as the kit doesn't have that part. Great photo, I'd provide credit if I knew where it came from, it isn't in any of the books that I've got.
I'm not sure why but the kit doesn't quite capture the massive nature of the real thing, they weren't particularly large engines but somehow the model misses the point a bit, dimensionally it's very close to the Beattie drawing but just not quite there.
C11_9879.JPG
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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by kimballthurlow » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:57 am

Hi Paul,
Thanks for showing your lovely model, one that is not seen often.
I am sure that from the perspective of rail level, it would appear just as massive as the real one.
Overhead views just don't do it.

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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by Nova » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:54 pm

nzpaul wrote:
Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:32 am
I'm not sure why but the kit doesn't quite capture the massive nature of the real thing, they weren't particularly large engines but somehow the model misses the point a bit, dimensionally it's very close to the Beattie drawing but just not quite there.
for some reason the one in the photo looks a bit longer and compared to the shorter and taller looking model, possibly just my imagination but it could be what the problem is
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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by John Palmer » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:35 pm

To my way of thinking, kimballthurlow makes an excellent point about the photographer's position. As it happens, there's a picture of Midlothian taken from a similar viewpoint as that in your 1:32 a.m. post at page 27 in Locomotives Illustrated No. 62, and the resemblance of your model is striking.

The picture of Abbotsford is a beauty. I can't add anything as to the photographer's identity, but I am confident that the picture was taken at St Margarets, with the corner of the turners' shop visible on the right hand side of the picture.

The trackwork nerd in me can't resist the urge to comment on the rail joint visible below Abbotsford's cab footstep, with no corresponding joint in the opposite rail. Staggered joint track or a convenient place at which to make use of a spare length of rail?

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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by Nova » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:37 pm

John Palmer wrote:
Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:35 pm
The trackwork nerd in me can't resist the urge to comment on the rail joint visible below Abbotsford's cab footstep, with no corresponding joint in the opposite rail. Staggered joint track or a convenient place at which to make use of a spare length of rail?
I heard of rivet counters, but fishplate counters? whatever will happen next :roll:

at least you keep the rest of us on our toes
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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by nzpaul » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:55 am

Hi All
It's been a while but I've finally managed to spare some time to carry on with the C11's tender. I think the pictures pretty much tell the story of how I've gone about making the wrap around coal rails and cage. All made fro 0.8mm brass rod and plastic sheet. I have a copy of the relevant "Locomotives Illustrated" but photos of the cage details are a bit scarce so the whole thing is a pretty much guess work. As you can imagine, I managed to cause quite some pain to my thumb and index finger holding things together while soldering bits (who needs clamps???? :shock: ) There is still some tidy up work to do but I wanted to get the pictures taken before the light disappeared.
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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by Atlantic 3279 » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:31 am

No pain = no gain. :wink:
Bachmann A2 to A2/3: from my thread in Model Railways page 56 to 83, also

Hornby A3 to A1/1 Great Northern: from page 84, in resin from page 108.


Apologies for so many missing images - see page 1 for reasons & possible solution.

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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by nzpaul » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:32 am

haha, yep, thanks Graeme. If i can quote TW from his Wright Writes thread on RMW....."don't be a wimp, just hold on and solder it" or something to that effect.

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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by nzpaul » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:27 am

Hi All
Given that this kit was manufactured in a fairly old fashioned way, its tender has no internal chassis but relies on the axles running in the frames, I have been agonizing over how to fit pickups into the tender but keep the thing serviceable. The solution I've arrived at looks like this:
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I've soldered the frames solid on one side but made the other side removable by soldering a piece of brass angle to act as fixing near the front and a countersunk screw retaining the back end. The end result will mean a visible screw but by the time it's painted it should be fairly hard to spot. The tender is also very free rolling, making wonder if the internal chassis is really a superior way of doing things or not.
Also made up the lubricator drive on the loco, made from a scrap of round white metal and some bent up used guitar string, It's not exact but I didn't fancy trying to solder up something so small, so near enough will have to do.
c11_30.jpg

Cheers
Paul

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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by nzpaul » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:36 am

Hi All
Not quite the completed article yet, but here's a picture of the nearly finished C11. Despite having lowered the loco as much as comfort would allow, there is still a discrepancy in height between the loco and tender. I wouldn't be surprised if the tender is too low as well as the loco being "jacked up" . It's not completely awful but I'm tempted to keep trying to resolve the ride height.
c11_31.jpg
Once again I've tried to get a descent low angle shot, I'm no photographer is the only conclusion I come to.....

Cheers
Paul

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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by Atso » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:16 am

It might not be the completed article yet Paul but it does look very very good! 8)
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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by Atlantic 3279 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:28 pm

Always nice to see a neatly built loco rather than one out of the box. The preservation of service access to the tender running gear seems a sound idea. Now you have it that way, you'll never need it of course :roll: .
Bachmann A2 to A2/3: from my thread in Model Railways page 56 to 83, also

Hornby A3 to A1/1 Great Northern: from page 84, in resin from page 108.


Apologies for so many missing images - see page 1 for reasons & possible solution.

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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by nzpaul » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:15 am

Thanks Steve and Graeme, I'll take all the compliments I can get. Although I'm under no illusion that I'm not as good a model maker as either of you. I'm always blown away at the finish of your models, I just don't have the chops to get the bow pen to do what you both achieve, still, practice makes perfect....eventually.
Further to the ride height issue, I think I'm pretty much stuck with the loco how it is, the running plate is resting on the cylinder tops as it is and the loco sits level so that's all there is, bottomed out if you like.....oh well, once it's running on a layout it wont be that noticeable.

Cheers
Paul

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Re: Paul's workbench

Post by Atso » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:28 am

nzpaul wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:15 am
Thanks Steve and Graeme, I'll take all the compliments I can get. Although I'm under no illusion that I'm not as good a model maker as either of you. I'm always blown away at the finish of your models, I just don't have the chops to get the bow pen to do what you both achieve, still, practice makes perfect....eventually.
Paul,

Please do not sell yourself short. Your C11 is very very good and it doesn't matter what method you use to do your lining - my D49 uses both pen and transfer work (especially the later on the tender) to use the lining. Besides, I'm very much a bodger in my own work and if I get stuck (or think something I'm trying is just too crazy), I just read Graeme's, Jonathon's, Rob's or half a dozen other people's threads and try and copy what they do!

Keep up the great work, you've got a corker of a model going there! 8)
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