James' workbench- ex-GC locos and stock in OO

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Re: James' workbench- ex-GC locos and stock in OO

Post by Mercator II » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:28 pm

I see them!!!!

Looks good too!!
oOo

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Re: James' workbench- ex-GC locos and stock in OO

Post by James Harrison » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:34 pm

Result! (Must have been something going on with Imgur then).

Thank you!- building the remainder of the rake forms part of the to-do list for 2018.

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Re: James' workbench- ex-GC locos and stock in OO

Post by James Harrison » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:19 pm

Over Christmas, amongst other things, I've been looking at the last of the cardboard kits for Metropolitan Ashbury stock. Once completed, this kit will complete my rake of those carriages (and, incidentally, consume more than a few bits and pieces that have been cluttering up the workbench for the last six months- bogie kits, buffer castings and the like)...

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Carriage underframes; having started with the simple open box structure from the kit (a floor and four sides to fold up), I added a sheet of 0.5mm plastic sheet on top to brace the floor and provide the carriage footboards. I've also added the couplings (knuckle couplings from the Kadee range, same as now most of my coaching stock) and the buffers (I think these are from the Dart Castings stable- I could be wrong!- but they are intended for British Railways Mk.1 carriages, but don't look out of place for that).

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Now from below; firstly you can see the original cardboard element of the floor and solebars. Left to its own devices that's not really a very strong structure, so you can see I braced it up with some 2mm square plastic strip running the full length of the carriage down both sides. At the ends, where the buffers and couplings are fitted, I put two of these in (making a 4mm by 2mm block) and then cut the middle out of that to allow a gap for the coupling. I also drilled 2.4mm holes through the blocks to provide a form footing for the buffers. The bogies are plastic kits by Parkside Dundas intended for one of their long bogie wagon kits; the reason I have used these particular bogies is that the original carriages had very short wheelbases on the bogies (of the order of 5'), which are pretty much impossible to source either as ready-to-run items or as kits. It is a case of using wagon bogies (which are shorter than carriage bogies), or using carriage bogies with a wheelbase of 8' or so. Which on a carriage of about 40' length looks pretty ridiculous. Finally, in the middle of the carriage, are two iron weights of 10 grams each. These are some of those self-adhesive balancing weights you can buy for balancing car or motorbike wheels.

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Coming up to the bodywork now, you can see how I've used two kits to create the panelling. I've also used 10mm lengths of 0.5mm square plastic strip to create the louvred vents. The sides and the roof are drawn as one piece and to create a nice even curve I scored the roof at approximately 2mm centresto induce a curve. I also know from previous experience that the roof is a little too wide, so I cut a 2mm strip out of it down the centre of the carriage.

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The carriage ends are separate components and fit inside the carriage sides.

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For the interior of the carriage, I am using spare ends from the main kit and otherwise useless parts from the second kit (bought for the panelling) to create the bulkheads between the compartments. These will be then be painted, and some seats built out of plastic sheet.

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Re: James' workbench- ex-GC locos and stock in OO

Post by James Harrison » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:34 pm

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I've added the roof, the seats and the glazing. I've introduced the body to the underframes; with the exception of the transfers and varnish it's about finished.

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Re: James' workbench- ex-GC locos and stock in OO

Post by James Harrison » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:07 pm

I made the finishing touches on the last of those carriages today. Footboards were added and painted, doors were drawn in and a few suspect areas of paint on the roof were attended to.

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I'm rather pleased with it, all told.

I've also started on a new locomotive, a GCR class 18 Converted, or LNER class J58 in post-1923 parlance.

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These are quite interesting machines. They started life in the 1880s as 0-6-0 goods tender engines but by 1900 were being superceded by newer designs. Rather than scrap them outright it was observed that there was still a lot of life left in their boilers and frames, so almost the entire class were taken in hand and converted into tank engines. Their tenders would have been reconditioned to go on and run behind newer locomotives, whilst the engines themselves had their frames lengthened in the rear, they were given a saddle tank and a bunker, and then they went on to spend another twenty years or so being employed as shunters in yards. Being fitted with vacuum brakes meant that they were rather more useful than an almost identical class of tank engines- class 18T- so they could also be seen on short goods workings out on the running lines.

My model takes as a starting point a Triang dock shunter from the 1960s.

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Now the prototype for this toy (and it really is a toy!) is coincidentally also an 0-6-0 tender engine that was converted to a tank loco- in that case a South Eastern & Chatham machine rebuilt for dock working in about 1917. Such is the curious way of things.

There are of course many differences between the two that will need attention, not least of which is that the Triang engine has a bulk about it singularly lacking from my chosen prototype.

So; first things first, I cut the model down into separate components. The running plate, the cab, bunker and saddle tank, and the smokebox. There was a fourth part too- a deep band of material below the saddle tank that I have discarded. The whole body needs lowering toward the running plate by around 2 or 3mm you see, and it's going to be easier to just do that from scratch than to mess about trying to take a nice perfect 3mm slot out of the body.

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Re: James' workbench- ex-GC locos and stock in OO

Post by manna » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:50 pm

G'Day Gents

First time I've ever seen someone do anything to one of these. Height, is the biggest problem with these loco's, but I bet you have a 'cunning plan'.......

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Re: James' workbench- ex-GC locos and stock in OO

Post by James Harrison » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:06 pm

I reckon the Triang body needs about 3mm taking out of it in the height. The problem is that the chassis is back to front in this one- the motor is in the smokebox- and the top of the motor is only a millimetre or so below the inside of the moulding. The moulding is quite thick and chunky, but not 3mm thick and chunky. I'm probably going to thin down the smokebox as far as I can, then cut a slit out of the top of it- the chimney has to come off anyway- then create a new smokebox wrapper to cover the hole. It's sure going to be an interesting one.

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Re: James' workbench- ex-GC locos and stock in OO

Post by 52D » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:56 pm

manna wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:50 pm
G'Day Gents

First time I've ever seen someone do anything to one of these. Height, is the biggest problem with these loco's, but I bet you have a 'cunning plan'.......

manna
Looking on with interest at this one manna, i remember a few years ago a chap made some models of real locos LBSCR ISTR out of triang Nellie etc.
Hi interested in the area served by 52D. also researching colliery wagonways from same area.

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