King's Cross Goods Yard Buildings

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Re: King's Cross Goods Yard Buildings

Post by Andy W » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:10 pm

If you look at old plans of the goods yard the potato market was at the eastern edge - a row of warehouses that were served from the rear by wagons turned through 90 degrees by hydraulic capstan.

When I started in the mid 1970’s the tracks into these warehouses had gone and only the row of warehouses themselves remained, seemingly used for distribution. One by one they fell into disuse as the firms went or retreated to their main base at Nine Elms or wherever. Every three months I used to send our Meter Reader down there as BR billed them for electricity

Rail access into the potato market was via the Midland Shed area. The Midland shed is the attractive roofed goods shed at the east end of the yard. The hydraulic accumulator (No 3) to power the potato market capstans was situated half way down on the left hand side of the Midland Shed, behind two enormous green doors.

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Re: King's Cross Goods Yard &Vermin

Post by rockinjohn » Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:02 pm

Hi Pinza &all Rats yep a few around that area as mentioned previously I worked in a small goods shed mid '60s steam gone( sob) @ the top of the NL incline, the road down from York Way to the bottom of Kings X yard was cobbled &had a small watchmans hut manned in steam days, I know tried to get in for the MPD didnt happen,now this road was used by Finsbury Council not many trucks unlike Islington, to gain access to the area where they tipped the refuse from the trucks, not sure where it went after tipping out in the yard, by road or rail? but sure was a few rats sighted by yours truly daylight hours&humans didnt seem to bother them either,

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Re: King's Cross Goods Yard Buildings

Post by StevieG » Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:15 am

Mickey wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:14 pm
(28 Jul 2020)
" .... There was a old lattice post bracket signal amongst all those sidings roads carrying two separate semaphore 'fixed' distant signals on either doll which I believe may have belonged to Goods And Mineral Junction box?. I think both the green and yellow spectacles in both the distant signals were both missing?. .... "
Those were worked from Five Arch points box Mickey - the numbers 18 & 22 come to mind - but I'd have to have a look at the diagram to see if I could work out what they applied to.
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Re: King's Cross Goods Yard Buildings

Post by Mickey » Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:55 am

StevieG wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:15 am
Mickey wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:14 pm
(28 Jul 2020)
" .... There was a old lattice post bracket signal amongst all those sidings roads carrying two separate semaphore 'fixed' distant signals on either doll which I believe may have belonged to Goods And Mineral Junction box?. I think both the green and yellow spectacles in both the distant signals were both missing?. .... "
Those were worked from Five Arch points box Mickey - the numbers 18 & 22 come to mind - but I'd have to have a look at the diagram to see if I could work out what they applied to.
I remember having a walk around the back of the Goods yard one afternoon either in 1974 or 1975 because I had never been around that part of the Goods yard before and I remember seeing those two distant signals standing amongst a sea of rusty and empty sidings and I supposed I just assumed they were Goods And Mineral Junction distant signals for some reason although thinking about it logically they probably would have been Five Arch distant signals.
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Re: King's Cross Goods Yard Buildings

Post by Tim Watson » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:33 pm

Interesting discussions on our stamping (modelling) ground. Keep them coming! Don’t forget the Irwell books on
KX.

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Re: King's Cross Goods Yard Buildings

Post by StevieG » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:09 pm

Mickey wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:55 am
StevieG wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:15 am
Mickey wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:14 pm
(28 Jul 2020)
" .... There was a old lattice post bracket signal amongst all those sidings roads carrying two separate semaphore 'fixed' distant signals on either doll which I believe may have belonged to Goods And Mineral Junction box?. I think both the green and yellow spectacles in both the distant signals were both missing?. .... "
Those were worked from Five Arch points box Mickey - the numbers 18 & 22 come to mind - but I'd have to have a look at the diagram to see if I could work out what they applied to.
I remember having a walk around the back of the Goods yard one afternoon either in 1974 or 1975 because I had never been around that part of the Goods yard before and I remember seeing those two distant signals standing amongst a sea of rusty and empty sidings and I supposed I just assumed they were Goods And Mineral Junction distant signals for some reason although thinking about it logically they probably would have been Five Arch distant signals.
I have found my notes from a flying visit to Five Arch cabin in about 1969, and I find that I had remembered the numbers of those two bracket-mounted Distants correctly.; 18 (on the right when viewed from the front), and 22 (on the left).
And I wrote that the lever badges meant : -
18
SIGNAL
DISTANT
FROM
TWO
SIDINGS
TO
COAL
DEPARTURE
23

and

22
SIGNAL
DISTANT
FROM
HIGH LEVEL
SIDINGS
TO
COAL
DEPARTURE
23

Unfortunately I learned very little of the names of the Yard's parts, and its layout by sight, south of the York Way viaduct, so without a detailed plan of the whole Yard, those names don't mean much to me.
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Re: King's Cross Goods Yard Buildings

Post by Mickey » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:05 pm

I just assumed they were both 'fixed distant signals' as I previously posted?. The bracket post and two dolls were I recall of the lattice type (they may have still have had top finals on both dolls?) and along with the two upper quadrant distant signal arms which were both missing the yellow & green glasses in both signals the bracket signal post appeared to have seen better days. I can't honestly remember if I saw two signal wires running from that bracket post back towards Five Arch shunting frame although with those two arms being 'workable' signals I presume there must have been two signal wires from the bracket post back towards Five Arch although 45 years on I can't honestly remember?.
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Re: King's Cross Goods Yard Buildings/incline

Post by rockinjohn » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:21 am

Hi Mickey/Tim &others,as mentioned on past posts I worked @ the top of the NLL incline, what came to me was a memory, on one of my lunch breaks I walked bottom to top on the sleepers in the '60's not much happened on it trainwise that I ever observed, but some of the rail chairs were dated 188x & I assume were marked GNR also.jj

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Re: King's Cross Goods Yard Buildings/incline

Post by Mickey » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:33 pm

rockinjohn wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:21 am
Hi Mickey/Tim &others,as mentioned on past posts I worked @ the top of the NLL incline, what came to me was a memory, on one of my lunch breaks I walked bottom to top on the sleepers in the '60's not much happened on it trainwise that I ever observed, but some of the rail chairs were dated 188x & I assume were marked GNR also.jj
Your talking about Maiden Lane at the 'top of the Kings Cross Incline' jj. The incline was realigned in recent years but when I was at Camden Road box (relief 1987-1990 then resident 1992-2004) from the late 1990s they started wanting to run a few heavy freight trains that came up the ECML and running them up the old incline to Camden Road and beyond to Willesden and apparently the 'rail burn' on the top of the rail along that length of railway on the rising 1-37 gradient of the incline between the former Goods And Mineral Junction to the top of the incline at Maiden Lane was quite bad in parts and it wasn't unusual for freight trains to fail on the incline back then no wonder they realigned the incline giving it a sweeping curve and a easier rising gradient for freight trains to negotiate.
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