Kings Cross

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manna
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Re: Kings Cross

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G'day Gents

What did surprise me the other day was a picture of Gresley Mainline stock at Farringdon St station (Ex, Snow Hill) up side behind a N1, on a special, I didn't know mainline stock was allowed down the drain/widened lines.

manna
PS I have re-found the picture, it's of 69470 with a headboard saying, "The Bernard Shaw Special" dated 2-10-55, and is part of the Mike Morant Collection.
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Re: Kings Cross

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Any chance of picking up a coach number or other detail from the photo? I should have thought the 61'6" stock too long, but the GE section 52'6" vehicles would probably not cause a problem.
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Re: Kings Cross

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Picture is here.

I don't have diagram books to hand, but the second carriage has 8 large windows, which suggests 61'6" TK or TO to me.
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Re: Kings Cross

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thesignalman wrote:Certainly did run trains, including expresses, into Platform 1 off the Up Slow at York Road - a sleeper arrival in the morning was one regular but you had to pray the driver didn't stop short.
Yeah i could imagine that was the case John if the driver of a train of sleepers especially and there GUVs at the rear of the train overhanging platform no.1 if the driver stopped slightly short of the stops with the rear of the train either standing on the connection coming off the Up Moorgate in York Road station or the rear of the train still standing on a track circuit preventing the signalman normalising the points off the Up Moorgate.

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Re: Kings Cross

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Well, that's what I said in fewer words.

If one didn't pull in clear it was a bit of a faff because the incoming driver would be away in a flash so not only did you need to find a driver but you had to get somebody to close all the doors. As the passengers had until about 8.30 to wake up, dress and scarper there was always somebody opening a door at the other end to the poor chap who was closing them!

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Re: Kings Cross

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thesignalman wrote:As the passengers had until about 8.30 to wake up, dress and scarper there was always somebody opening a door at the other end to the poor chap who was closing them!
In the meantime the loco on either 1-Shunt (usually a Brush type 2) or 2-Shunt (usually a 350hp shunter) would take the car carrying GUVs off the back end and take them across to the Milk Dock for unloading.
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Re: Kings Cross

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Hi Folks.
I worked at KX as a secondman from about 1963 it is good to read all the remarks made by all of you about your experiences at the Cross in your times their, I started at the KX goods yard working as a van boy on the delivery trucks and would go to the canteen at the Top Shed and mix with the engine crews for our meals, I manged to transfer to the motive power side of things and was transferred to KX pass depot as Top Shed had now closed, I started as a cleaner progressed to secondman after doing my training in the classrooms on york road station platform and managed to get to no:3 link with Ron Kennedy as my driver for a time before they closed Hornsey depot then the chosen men arrived and my seniority took a backward step and quite a few of them progressed up the links in front of me.
I remember a few of the names that have been mentioned, Freddie Orr - Ken De'ath - Quigley & John Hill who lived near me and what you all say about Peter Green and Tommy Fee are quite correct, I met Peter Green when I went up to the Finsbury Park link for a short while and mentioned to him that I didnt remember him at KX at any time and he told me that it was his choice to not do the Lodge and stay in the Finsbury Park link.
I see from some of the comment that he did eventually become a driver and tease a few of the younger lads, I think that was he way and I never heard any bad rumours circulating about his habits.
Reading some of the comments on here bring back lots of memories of my time at KX and would like to say keep up the very interesting topics
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Re: Kings Cross

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G'Day Gents

Welcome to LNER Encyclopedia. :D

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Re: Kings Cross

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Hi Manna &others their were excursions from the Northern Heights eg. High Barnet &possibly further afield as an orginating point in steam days, utilising the style of stock livered(blood &custard)as shown in the picture you posted,now the destination may well have been to the Eastern(GER)destinations,but possibly some went South via the "Widened Lines"?jj
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