York in the 1930s

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60048
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Re: York in the 1930s

Post by 60048 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:01 pm

One comment that has come up on this topic on another forum:
"There were only about 45 V2s in 1937 and about 24 A4s so it was still very much an Atlantic era with 4-4-0s doing the secondary passenger work devolved to the B1s in later year"

Can anyone shed any light (or advise any books that may do) on which 4-4-0s were working which secondary services? I need to look up if any of the Ivatt Atlantics were based at York in the 1936-1938 period, but I presume they would have possibly worked in from Grantham or Doncaster?

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Re: York in the 1930s

Post by jwealleans » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:31 pm

I think York would have had enough NER Atlantics not to need Ivatt ones - I can only recall one photograph of an C2 north of York. I'd expect them to work in from Grantham or Sheffield and be changed. The NER D17-21 locos were still employed for secondary services to Hull and Scarborough, but don't forget that although there were only 24 A4s there were still 79 A1/3s.

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Re: York in the 1930s

Post by john coffin » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:47 pm

There were certainly some ex GNR D3's on the Stainforth Branch, with special cabs which by chance, my kit for LRM includes :roll:
I didn't check when they stopped working there, but certainly there would be no Pacifics on those roads.

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Re: York in the 1930s

Post by JASd17 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:55 pm

4424 and 4447 were based at York in the LNER period.

Local services to Scarborough, Leeds, Hull etc. would have seen D17, D20 and Leeds based D21s.

I do like a D17, preferably hauling a NE Area Composition C set.....

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Re: York in the 1930s

Post by 60048 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:40 pm

John,
Many thanks. I may need to talk to you more about Composition C sets :)

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Re: York in the 1930s

Post by JASd17 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:56 pm

Hi Rich,

North Eastern Composition A sets are more likely at York for local main line workings. 1932 version below.

4 carriages: BT (3 compt.) to diagram 18, Composite Lavatory (4-3) to diagram 5, Third (8 compt.) to Diagram 14, BT (3) Diagram 18.

All these diagrams were clerestory roof non-corridors, although there were elliptical roof versions of these carriages too.

Not many LMS ordinary passenger trains into York. I can only see approx. 4 services from Sheffield Midland. Strangely, these are not shown in the LNER Carriage Working Books, only the express passenger service formations are recorded.

John

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Re: York in the 1930s

Post by 60048 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:31 am

Thanks for that John.

I’ll look up the diagram numbers in the appropriate drawings books.

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