The Puggy

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The Puggy

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Can anyone tell me what the PUGGY was ?
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In what context?

Pug - a typical appellation for a small shunting loco
Puggy Line - the nickname for Balfour Beatty's Works Railway serving the water storage for and tunnels leading to the aluminium smelter at Fort William in Lochaber.
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In what context?
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Ignoring the last post.
I travelled regularly on the 10.42pm out of Doncaster in 1947,changed at Edinboro for Gasgow.
Mostly on a Friday evening. The train started at Ely and finished, I think in Aberdeen.
I once heard it referred to as the Puggy, I wondered how it got its name?
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Interesting i love old names like this. Definiteley a bit too far for a Y9 so it wasnt named for the loco that was hauling it.
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In the TV series on Railway walks with Julia Bradbury.
The one featuring the Spey valley line made reference to a distillery thats own shunting loco was called a puggy.

Linking this with the L + Y pugs I would suggest that any small shunting loco could be called "Puggy" and that the L+Y tanks may have either been the instigator of the name or a reaction to it.
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"Pug" was definitely used for a number of small 0-4-0ST locos. The L&Y pugs are the most famous but the Neilson 0-4-0STs as used by the NBR and Caley were known as "Scottish Pugs" or "Caley Pugs" as well.I don't know the history (perhaps the L&Y pugs were the first) but it seems to have been a common name for that type of loco.

(although the Neilson Y5 0-4-STs were "Coffeepots" rather than "Pugs"!)

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The spotters at Selby also used the term coffeepot for their allocation of Sentinal Y1 and Y3's

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driving through Selby some time back and saw a garage full of plastic pigs out their back, must have been about 60 of them, no we had'nt been drinking :oops: !

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I think the LMS Ivatt designed those, didn't he? :-)


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mr B wrote:driving through Selby some time back and saw a garage full of plastic pigs out their back, must have been about 60 of them, no we had'nt been drinking :oops: !

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Never heard of them being called pigs before.
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Called plastic Pig's be cause they where built at Tamworth, hence Tamworth Pig big brown thing's lovely bacon! , or to a Bond enthusiast also known as Rolly-pre common market, Toplie-post common market, any way Brian nice to see you got the name right way, some folk's refer them as Robin Reliant, (Del Boy.. it was in fact a Regal Van).

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Dragging this discussion, kicking and screaming, back onto topic....

"Big Pug" was the Scottish nickname for the LMS 2-6-4Ts certainly during the BR era, so was it a general nickname for all tankies NOTB?

Incidentally, I once heard a "Caley Pug" described as "yon wee beetle crushers!"
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Plastic Pigs are the Class 442 Wesssex Electrics. They got this nickname because various 'plastic' (actually fibre glass)bits kept falling off.
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Blink Bonny above referred to Beetle Crushers ISTR a class of SECR(I think) tanks was called by the same name.
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