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Push-Pull Operations

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I would like to know the details of push-pull operations on the LNER system: what coaches were used, what locomotives types, the apparatus that was present on push-pull engines, maybe even sources of appropriate models in 4mm/OO guage? can anyone help?

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Any particular area/era?
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yeah, guess I should have been more specific :P ex-NER during the 1930s, as I wish to know what kind of engine and apparatus to run with the Langley NER Clerestory Autocoach. :D
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I'd have thought a G5 or G6 would be your best bet - I don't know whether the 2-4-2 tanks were used on that kind of service. OTTOMH the last photo of an autotrain I saw was taken at Guisborough and had a G6 between two of what looked like the Langley coaches. The last G6 was withdrawn in 1929, I believe

Ken Hoole might tell you what you want to know, though I can't suggest any titles. Hasn't he published at least one branch line collection?
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I wouldn't know XD I think the G5'll be my best bet, as London Road Models do a 4mm kit of it. Do you know what kind of apparatus was fitted to push-pull engines, or what train formations there were? I had always assumed that push-pull trains across Britain consisted of only one coach, as per GWR practice, but that's probably me being incredibly naive :?
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Bass,

I have found two photos of LNER Push and Pull trains in the NE with the ex NER Clerestory which had the big oval windows at the end. I refer to these because the formation are interesting. I confirm that the G6s were all withdrawn by 1929.

In Ken Hooles NE Branch lines sice 1925, page 89, there is a photo of a G6 BTP sandwiched between two PP coaches, both with control gear. This was taken in 1926 at Hylton on a Sunderland train.

The second was taken at Nunthorpe bank in 1919, the interesting formation was a Clerestory PP in front of the engine and two carriages behind, probably to be dropped off at Guisborough.

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The Worsdell F8s were not all withdrawn until 1938.
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G5s pushed and pulled out of Monkseaton on the Blyth and Tyne until the late 1950s.
There's a picture of one doing so in J. Joyce's Rails of Tyne and Wear (1985).

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Thanks for all the help guys! :D


I suppose this picture is depicting the push-pull apparatus, as neither the loco or coaches are NER/LNER? ^^'
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Bass,

That is not your typical LNER apparatus.

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What is the typical apparatus, and where would I get the appropriate accessories for push-pull workings in model form, 4mm scale? I ask you Colombo, because of your evident experience in modelling :D
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Either Dave Alexander or Comet do the necessary bits. I'd suspect it's Dave as he also does the kit for the G5.
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Thanks for pointing in the right direction. You were right, it is Dave Alexander :)
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