John Mark Day - 2580 Shotover - Flying Scotsman

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Re: John Mark Day - 2580 Shotover - Flying Scotsman

Post by silverfox » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:11 pm

Would the crew of 2580 in the yard be the disposal lads?

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Re: John Mark Day - 2580 Shotover - Flying Scotsman

Post by madgewildfire60135 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:07 pm

Would the crew of 2580 in the yard be the disposal lads?

Your right silverfox they are indeed the disposal crew. The loco looks like it is about to enter the turntable in the small yard behind the station. My thanks to Owen Brison for this information.

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Re: John Mark Day - 2580 Shotover - Flying Scotsman

Post by GNR Genealogist » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:36 pm

jday - an article in the Great Northern Society magazine of May/June 2016 tells the story of the fateful journey of Lord Kitchener from Kings Cross to Scotland in 1916, before he boarded HMS Hampshire and went to his death.

He was meant to wait for a representative of the Foreign Office carrying code cyphers but gave up waiting and his special train left KC at 5.45pm on the day before his death. The official turned up later and a second special train was formed to carry the FO official leaving KC at 6.56pm some 71 minutes after Kitchener's. It passed Hatfield in 20 minutes and arrived at Grantham after 97 minutes.

The engines of both specials were changed at Grantham and Kitchener's engine was held at York to enable the second train to arrive, which it did just 43 minutes after Kitchener's. It was an impressive run by any standards - it was thought to be the fastest ever start to stop average speed achieved by the GNR at 65.5mph.

The driver of the second special from KC carrying the FO official was in the hands of J Day with W Jeffries as his fireman.

I cannot trace another J Day as an engine driver at KC at this time so it must be John Mark Day!

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Re: John Mark Day - 2580 Shotover - Flying Scotsman

Post by silverfox » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:20 pm

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Re: John Mark Day - 2580 Shotover - Flying Scotsman

Post by jday » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:25 pm

GNR Genealogist wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:36 pm
jday - an article in the Great Northern Society magazine of May/June 2016 tells the story of the fateful journey of Lord Kitchener from Kings Cross to Scotland in 1916, before he boarded HMS Hampshire and went to his death.

He was meant to wait for a representative of the Foreign Office carrying code cyphers but gave up waiting and his special train left KC at 5.45pm on the day before his death. The official turned up later and a second special train was formed to carry the FO official leaving KC at 6.56pm some 71 minutes after Kitchener's. It passed Hatfield in 20 minutes and arrived at Grantham after 97 minutes.

The engines of both specials were changed at Grantham and Kitchener's engine was held at York to enable the second train to arrive, which it did just 43 minutes after Kitchener's. It was an impressive run by any standards - it was thought to be the fastest ever start to stop average speed achieved by the GNR at 65.5mph.

The driver of the second special from KC carrying the FO official was in the hands of J Day with W Jeffries as his fireman.

I cannot trace another J Day as an engine driver at KC at this time so it must be John Mark Day!
Thank you so much for this message with more information on John Mark Day :D . I am sorry not to have seen it sooner.

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Re: John Mark Day - 2580 Shotover - Flying Scotsman

Post by GNR Genealogist » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:38 pm

Glad you found it of use!

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Re: John Mark Day - 2580 Shotover - Flying Scotsman

Post by jday » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:01 pm

GNR Genealogist wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:38 pm
Glad you found it of use!
My father has confirmed the story - it was in deed John Mark Day. The added information about it being code cyphers is new as it was understood previously that a member of his office was late.

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Re: John Mark Day - 2580 Shotover - Flying Scotsman

Post by jday » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:33 pm

I was just speaking to my father about John Mark Day's watch. It is a Natal Government Railways pocket watch (John Walker, Regent Street, London). Would anyone know why he would have this? Did any King's Cross drivers go to assist NGR?

Many Thanks

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Re: John Mark Day - 2580 Shotover - Flying Scotsman

Post by jday » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:17 pm

I have found mention in the Meccano Magazine of June 1925 that Driver Day was the pilot of the GWR Caldicot Castle in the locomotive trials.

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