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John,

Yes you do have the correct answer, right in every respect.

I was on the NNR last week and I have to say that the poor old thing was in a very sorry state indeed. No cab, no motion, no tender. I remember how well it used to look at Beamish in fully lined NER green. I did see it in 1961 when it was parked on Darlington MPD awaiting its fate.

I also remember in the 50s, whenever the RCTS, or was it the BLS, hired a train to visit the DVLR at York, the only light weight 0-6-0s at York were J25s which were not fiteed, so they had to call in a J21 from up north.

Over to you,

Colombo

Thanks Colombo,

I enjoyed hearing about what you had to say on the J21, such an interesting history and a very nice engine to boot. There is a very sorry picture of this locomotive in the May 2007 Heritage Railway magazine (page 32) where an appeal for £300,000 to restore her is being launched by the North Norfolk Railway.

According to the magazine, the LNER 67A boiler has been condemned necessitating fabrication of a new one, the boiler alone will cost over £100,000. NNR are hoping to have her inside the workshops in June or July of this year to begin cleaning her in readiness for a winter project. She was last steamed in 1984.

That was fun, now comes the hard part of thinking up some more clues

OK, here goes, I am looking for the class and number here. Let me know if the clues are too obscure and I'll chuck in an additional one or two.

1. From boreal regions this engine was produced in wartime

2. A bit of an old salt, this engine was valued (not financially) as
equivalent to one third of an A4 Pacific.

3. The sole survivor was still around in 1959, but withdrawn
the very next year


Good luck

John,

I did see 65033 at Weybourne last week, and 34081 92 Squadron was on duty. Still if they do to the former what they have done to the latter, I shall be well pleased. I hope they loan her to the NYMR.

I have in mind a locomotive from the far north, from the Great North of Scotland Railway, regions where it is possible, they say, to see the Aurora Borealis. This class of locos was built in 1915 by Messrs. Manning and Wardle, there was one left in 1959 according to Alan Brett Cannon's little bi-ennial publication of that date, and according to Casserley and Johnston, it was withdrawn in 1960.

As a dock shunter, it hung around with ships and sailors for 45 years and might well be thought to have gained the respect deserving an old salt. It had 1/3rd the tractive effort of an A4, but this is hardly a measure of worth, however if you used power classification, I can't find any (8/3)P2F.

Oh yes, that would be LNER class Z5, BR 68192.

Colombo

Colombo,

You are right on all aspects of the answer , it was indeed the LNER class Z5, BR 68192. The photo of 65033 is indeed a very sorry sight, hopefully this will soon start being rectified.

I see we have reached the grand total of 11 pages on these quiz type questions, should we try and get it to twenty

I trawled through the eleven pages written so far and it made for some very interesting reading, perhaps I ought to get a life?

Well done Colombo, over to you.

John,

Is anybody else following this?

Here we go again.

1. Designed by the ancestor of a supermarionated cockney butler/chauffeur, perhaps?
2. From a class built for two different railways, later amalgamated with a capital objective.
3. This mixed traffic loco was uniquely rebuilt.

What BR number was allocated to it?

Colombo

I'm following along - I'd worked out that Colombo's engine was a Worsdell compound->simple rebuild but hadn't quite reached for the books


1.) Parker

2.) There are a number of options, but Parker was Loco Superintendent for the MSLR - who built their London Extension (and became the GCR) in the late 19th Century.
Not sure of the second company.

3.) I've had a look through a number of Parker designs and cannot see a second company - except for the D7/D8 possibly, but those were express engines.


Richard

Richard,

Parker is right, keep going along those lines.

Colombo

Colombo,

Here's a very nice shot of 65033 in much better days, hope you like it.

Go to this link:

http://monkeysnaps3.fotopic.net/p39335454.html

John,

Thanks for the link to the photo of 65033. They were plucky little locos, built for mixed traffic and express goods.

Richard,

You are right with Parker and the GCR.

Do you need another clue? The second mouldy company had a Q in its initials.

Colombo

WMCQR!

Wrexham, Mold, and Connah Quay.

N5s were used by both, and were designed by Parker.

Unique rebuild is probably N5/3 with its boxy water tanks.
BR No. 69311, withdrawn Feb. 1952.

Richard

Richard,

Absolutely correct of course. It was a very strange looking machine in its rebuilt state. The only photo that I have seen recently is the one on the forum.

Your turn next.

Colombo

Here's one for the buffs!??!?

Is anyone willing to guess the locomotive Class, name and number (not necessarily in that order) from these three clues? Older buffs will spot this one easily.

1. Once and future numero uno

2. A classy engine shedded up north

3. A Knight of the realm and super hero to many young boys

I just posted this in absolutely the wrong place. Ok so I am not 100% but I fancy a shot.

60144 Sir Walter Scott, Peppercorn A1.

Nearly but not quite!

The wheel configuration is good!

Would that be an A1, shedded at Heaton, Sir Vincent Raven

Colombo