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B.R.(WR)

Post by Mickey » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:10 pm

The view looking east towards London from the footbridge at Southall station as a Warship diesel-hydraulic working the Down Torbay Express thunders through the station possibly about 1959 with Southall steam shed seen in the distance.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ksbank.jpg

A great but slightly out of focus action shot of no.4093 Dunster Castle storming along at the head of a mixed goods train probably during the early 1960s.

http://www.miac.org.uk/images/4093abbotswood.jpg

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Post by Mickey » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:35 pm

A Hawksworth 2-cylinder 'County class' mixed traffic 4-6-0 County of Dorset was one of 30 members of the class turned out by the GWR between 1945-1947 with this particular loco being seen in lined out black mixed traffic livery and with a early B.R. emblem on it's tender. This particular loco entered traffic in February 1946 and was withdrawn in July 1964 with none of the 30 members of the class being preserved and all going for scrap.

https://www.railadvent.co.uk/wp-content ... ksbank.jpg

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Post by JASd17 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:22 pm

Hi Mickey,

The original link gives more information for the Warship, a Ben Brooksbank photo, who is sadly no longer with us.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2397416

For those not familiar with geograph.org.uk it can be a very useful resource. Not perhaps in the league of https://maps.nls.uk/os/index.html, but good all the same.

John

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Post by Mickey » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:47 pm

Hi John.

Thanks for the extra information about the Southall photograph and also about Ben Brooksbank which I am sad to hear that he passed away as I have noticed recently a number of B.R.(WR) photographs being credited to him.

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Post by Mickey » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:27 pm

On the West London line at the south end of Kensington Olympia station in 1968 with a nice shot of a ex GWR pannier tank that was one of around a dozen panniers that was bought by London Transport from the Western Region of B.R. and used mainly on Engineering trains on the LT and also on the 'Watford tip workings' between the late 1950s and 1971. I presume the train originated from the London Transport Lillie Bridge depot not far from Kensington Olympia station and situated to the south of Kensington Olympia station.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... a_1968.jpg

Still on the West London line at Kensington Olympia station in 1968 with a Southern Region type 3 Crompton or a latter day class 33 diesel. The signal box in the picture was Kensington South Main (Kensington North Main signal box was logically at the north end of Kensington Olympia station) with both boxes being of LNWR heritage although during the B.R. era of the 1960s the West London line came under the control of the Western Region so there was a curious mix of different signalling in existence at Kensington Olympia station with WR lower quadrant signals being used at the south end of the station controlled by Kensington South Main box and with LMR upper quadrant signals being used at the north end of the station controlled by Kensington North Main box.

In August of 1970 I visited Kensington South Main box one Saturday afternoon when the signalman who was on duty looked down from one of the open box windows and invited me to 'come up and have a look around'.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... a_1968.jpg

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Post by Mickey » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:39 pm

There are one or two people who come on here that know a little bit about the boxes on the West London line anyway just for there interest the signalman who was on duty that Saturday afternoon back in August of 1970 I remember him telling me that he was a signalman at Luton South box at one time on the Midland main line out of St Pancras if that rings any (block) bells?.

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Post by StevieG » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:06 pm

IIRC both of those Kensington boxes also had GW lever frames Mickey.
But I couldn't say about what was in the former Middle box that closed, I think, sometime in the 1950s
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Post by Mickey » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:47 pm

Yes you are 100% correct Stevie regarding both Kensington South Main & Kensington North Main boxes both having GW lever frames. I thought it was an interesting place with it's strange mixture of WR lower quadrant signals at the south end of the station and LMR upper quadrant signals at the north end of the station plus there was the Motor Rail depot at the station as well under the control of Kensington North Main box.

Kensington South Main had a typical GWR style of entrance to the box which after entering through a wooden door (sunken down by several steps from the LT District line platform) you then climbed up an internal signal box staircase to the top where it brought you out onto the operating floor. The large lever frame was at the back of the box facing westwards away from the running lines outside and I believe from memory the block instruments or some of them were WR blocks?. There was still a fair bit of freight traffic that passed through the station even in 1970 and from vague memory even on a Saturday afternoon there appeared to be a small number of coal/coke trains heading south towards the Southern Region hauled by Southern Region class 73 electro diesels I recall.

Later on during the early 1980s from looking at several photographs of the area that I have seen it appears that the layout at Kensington Olympia was 'rationalised' like many other locations were around the late 1970s & early 1980s and a number of signal arms at Kensington South Main were removed also I remember that the box came on the B.R. vacancy list sometime around 1983/84 with a regular position being advertised but it was a bit of a strange backwater of a place by then and I clearly remember travelling down towards Kensington North Main at night in the cab of a loco circa 1979 and ALL Kensington North Main semaphore signals were unlit including a large bracket signal that carried Kensington North Main's home signal(s) for the Up through line and also the Up through to Up platform line along with Kensington South Main's distant signals as well along with various ground disc signals at Kensington North Main were all blank??. I think Kensington South Main along with Kensington North Main closed sometime around 1984/85 with that area becoming part of Victoria PSB located at Clapham Junction.

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