Making 'bellows' coach connectors

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Graeme Leary
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Making 'bellows' coach connectors

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I had been given the details a few years back on how to produce these by one of the many Yorkshire born railway modellers who have invaded New Zealand but have somehow or other mislaid the procedure. (I even have a couple of sheets of heavyish black paper and a paper clip with a note 'How to make pleated carriage 'bellows' joiners' but the actual instructions have disappeared).

As my original source has passed away I would be grateful for any info on this as there were some fairly precise measurements from memory. Specifically for The West Riding Pullman and The Flying Scotsman (in 00) not that I imagine there is any important difference in appearance. Also the correct terminology if 'bellows' not so.

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It may not be quite so cost effective where you are, but I started buying precut ones from Ebay as they are so cheap (laser cut, I think) that it's not worth the time to make your own.

This is one version of the instructions you're looking for.
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Graham theres a chap near the SVR makes all sorts of small bits and pieces i will try and find the link. I havent used him so cannot comment on his product but he does carriage boards and interior furniture as well, I agree wiyh JW's comments above.
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52D wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:55 am Can't find link ATM but this might do the trick https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12-x-00-Gaug ... 4902.l9144
It seems fhe guy i was thinking about no longer advertises on ebay, he was ill so i presume hes stopped production
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Thanks 52D and Jonathon. Will go with your link Jonathon as I have the materials here (and it's a bit of a hassle going on to ebay for such a small number of, I presume, low value items). The link shows what I recall my original notes said so should come back after I've made a couple.
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Re: Making 'bellows' coach connectors

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Graeme.

You might like to try this old method.
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Re: Making 'bellows' coach connectors

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Sorry Dave - should have acknowledged your thread sooner - not sure why I hadn't picked it up.

However, followed the method on Jonathon's link and all went well EXCEPT on my 4 12 wheel Pullman coaches. Seems possible that the difference in overall length on the 4 wheel bogies (55mm) and the 6 wheel bogies (65mm) as well as the centre wheels on the 6 wheel sets) makes it difficult for the 6 wheel sets taking the curves AND on tighter radii track (which the 4 wheel bogie coaches manage quite happily). (In both cases I'm referring to the Hornby Pullman 8 and 12 wheel Pullmans)

Also appears that the 6 wheel bogies sets (ie the 12 wheel coaches) are positioned slightly closer to the ends of each coach (than the 4 wheel sets/the 8 wheel coaches) and if this results in the inside corners of joining coaches being marginally closer to each other, and the bellows add 'tension' to each other with the result that derailment occurs.

Welcome any thoughts/ideas/comments.

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If it is the "tension" causing the problem could you try making a set of bellows with a thinner paper? I had similar problems: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index. ... r-coaches/

See also http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index. ... try2650214 showing how they were made.
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Re: Making 'bellows' coach connectors

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Mike,

Many thanks and will try this as very likely to solve the issue.

However, another suggestion has been made that I replace the centre pair (flanged) of wheels in each 6 wheel bogie sets with unflanged wheels which could remove the tension on any slightly tighter curves as only the flanges on the outer pair in each bogie would be making contact with the track.

Gives me a couple of solutions to try.

Graeme
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