James Holden & Stephen D. Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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neildimmer
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James Holden & Stephen D. Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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I have added a collection of James Holden J16 & J17 (GER Classes F48 & G58) 0-6-0
Within months of building D14 Claud Hamilton, James Holden introduced a freight 0-6-0 version of the design. Using the same boiler and cylinders as the D14s and a large two window cab, the new Class F48 locomotives were the UK's largest 0-6-0 tender locomotives at that time. The Great Eastern Railway (GER) built sixty Class F48 LNER J16 & J17
Including this photo of
65567 at Swaffham with R.C.T.S. (London Branch) Great Eastern Commemorative Steam Rail Tour 31st March 1962
https://tinyurl.com/3mm8rph8
Full collection starts here with
LNER era
5562
https://tinyurl.com/4bmmw6fc
to 8237
https://tinyurl.com/44wddrju
B.R. era starts here with
65525
https://tinyurl.com/2bv6vvss
to 65589
https://tinyurl.com/hfszeww

Neil
https://tinyurl.com/3mm8rph8
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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I have added a new collection featuring James Holden Class D13 (GER T19 Rebuilt) 4-4-0 Locomotives

These engines were the last variants of James Holden's famed T19 Class of 2-4-0 locos built between 1886 and 1897 for the Great Eastern Railway (GER). Originally built for express passenger work, heavier trains and the introduction of the D14 Claud Hamilton class in 1900 relegated the T19s to secondary duties. However, between 1905 and 1908, 60 of the class were rebuilt with front bogies to replace the leading wheels, a windowed cab, and a boiler similar to that fitted to the Clauds. The new boiler was larger was fitted with a Belpaire firebox and a brass rimmed built-up chimney. The front bogie improved the balance of their appearance considerably, but with only 3ft 1inch wheels it still looked a little odd compared to the 7 foot drivers.

Including this photo of assorted G.E.R./LNER locos
8039 (which went on to be last of class in service) unknown location Holden Class D13 (GER T19 Rebuilt) 4-4-0
https://tinyurl.com/u6vfjktc
Collection starts here with
G.E.R. era
744 unknown location
https://tinyurl.com/3uzfe6ep
LNER era starts here with
7729 unknown location
https://tinyurl.com/4c6xmpbz
to
8039
https://tinyurl.com/27rv9d4n

Neil

https://tinyurl.com/u6vfjktc
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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I have added over 20 new photos of J.Holden E4 (GER T26) 2-4-0 Locomotives
The GER Class T26 was a class of 2-4-0 steam tender locomotives designed by James Holden for the Great Eastern Railway. At the 1923 grouping they passed to the London and North Eastern Railway, who classified them E4. Eighteen survived into British Railways ownership in 1948, and the last was withdrawn in 1959, making them the last 2-4-0 tender locomotives at work in Britain. Their BR numbers were 62780–62797. (Wikipedia)

Including this colour photo
62784 Marks Tey c1954
https://tinyurl.com/4dk2rmkc

New photos start here with
LNER era
https://tinyurl.com/y9947srm

B.R. era
https://tinyurl.com/2p8239cc
to
https://tinyurl.com/2w3fszrt

Neil

https://tinyurl.com/4dk2rmkc
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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I have added a lot of new photos to the collection of James Holden J16 & J17 (GER Classes F48 & G58) 0-6-0

This first collection features the locos in the G.E.R. & LNER era’s

G.E.R. era start here with
1197 unknown location
https://tinyurl.com/56ywn2r4

LNER era start here with
8150 unknown location
https://tinyurl.com/52rxmvdd
to
8204 Peterborough East 20th May 1938
https://tinyurl.com/36eywe2p

Neil
https://tinyurl.com/56ywn2r4
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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I have added a lot of new photos to the collection of James Holden J16 & J17 (GER Classes F48 & G58) 0-6-0
This second collection features the locos in the B.R. era
Including this rail tour un known location of
65562 unknown location, date and Rail Tour
https://tinyurl.com/4mh25ac7
Full collection starts here with
65503 at Stratford
https://tinyurl.com/2p8mwp98
to
65542 Norwich shed 27th May 1956
https://tinyurl.com/223r5p2j
to
65588 Norwich shed April 1961
https://tinyurl.com/a7cfv348

Neil
https://tinyurl.com/4mh25ac7
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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I have added a collection of photos featuring J. Holden J70 0-6-0 (GER Class C53) Tram Engines
The GER Class C53 was a class of twelve 0-6-0T steam tram locomotives designed by James Holden for the Great Eastern Railway. They passed to the London and North Eastern Railway at the grouping, and received the LNER classification J70.
The first withdrawal was in 1942. The remaining locomotives were renumbered 8216–8226 in 1944. The remaining eleven locomotives passed to British Railways in 1948 on nationalisation, and had 60000 added to their numbers. Withdrawals restarted in 1949, slowly at first, then more quickly, and the last went in 1955.
Including this photo of
68220 & sister loco at Ipswich May 1951
https://tinyurl.com/2zyse68r
LNER era photos start here with
7125 & 7126 Upwell with return fruit trains 25th June 1929
https://tinyurl.com/5n98r58f
B.R. era photos start here with
68217 near Wisbech 25th August 1950
https://tinyurl.com/yck9pnvp

Neil
https://tinyurl.com/2zyse68r
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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I have added a collection of photos featuring T.W.Worsdell & later J.Holden F4 and F5 (GER Class M15) 2-4-2T
The GER Class M15 was a class of 160 2-4-2T steam locomotives designed by Thomas William Worsdell and built for the Great Eastern Railway between 1884 and 1909. The original (F4) class of locomotives were fitted with Joy valve gear which was notoriously difficult to 'set'. This earned them the nickname of 'Gobblers' thanks to their high coal consumption rates. As a result, between 1911 and 1920, 32 of them were rebuilt by James Holden with Stephenson valve gear and higher pressure boilers. Despite this, the nickname stuck for many years after.
Rebuilding included the fitting of a higher pressure boiler, and also involved replacing Joy valve gear with Stephenson valve gear thus forming the M15R class.
Many were fitted with condensing gear for working in the London area. In 1949 seven F5s were fitted with vacuum-controlled regulators, converted from Westinghouse air brake to steam brake, and fitted with push-pull apparatus and trip cock gear for branch line operation. (67199 was never fitted with trip cock gear). Five of these locomotives worked trains on the line between Epping and Ongar, two (numbers 67199 and 67218) were allocated to Yarmouth for working the Yarmouth-Beccles line. 67218 would later be transferred to Epping in 1955. These seven received British Railway lined-black passenger livery; the rest were unlined-black.
One-hundred-and-eighteen M15s and all thirty-two M15rs (including numbers 789 and 790, the two locomotives that were rebuilt with GER Class G69 cabs), passed into London and North Eastern Railway (LNER) ownership at the 1923 grouping. The number 7000 was added to the ex-GER fleet.
On 1 January 1923 the majority of the class were allocated to Stratford Engine Shed and were employed on suburban traffic in East London on the lines out of Fenchurch Street and Liverpool Street.
During World War 2 in 1940 a number of the class were taken out of service and had armoured plating added. They were then deployed on armoured trains, not only in their native East Anglia (Westerfield, Mistley and Tilbury), but in Kent, Lincolnshire and as far north as Aberdeen. They were also found at Ministry of Defence depots in the west of the country (Bicester, Long Marston and Wooton Dassett. By 1943 they were being returned to the LNER and were later fitted with brass plaques commemorating their role. These read - "LNER - during the war of 1939-1945 this locomotive was armoured and hauled defence trains on coast lines’
Thirty-seven F4s and all of the F5s, including 7218 and 7219 (ex-7789 and 7790), passed into British Railways (BR) ownership in 1948. Their BR numbers were:
Class F4: 67151-67187. (Fifteen of these F4s were allocated BR numbers but never carried them).
Class F5: 67188-67219
Withdrawal
Ten of the original series of forty engines constructed between 1884-87 were withdrawn in Great Eastern days, between September 1913 and December 1922. F4 withdrawals continued until 1937, and then again from 1943 to June 1956 when the last one, number 67157, was withdrawn from Kittybrewster. The F5 class remained intact until 1955 but withdrawal then proceeded rapidly, and they finally became extinct in May 1958.

67157 with cowcatchers at both ends on Kittybrewster shed 24th June 1956
https://tinyurl.com/2p9adsmr
Full collection starts here with
G.E.R. era
https://tinyurl.com/2p8kd87k
LNER era starts here with
7096
https://tinyurl.com/ycktttxu
to
7783
https://tinyurl.com/2p8p6czs
B.R. era starts here with
67155
https://tinyurl.com/3d25vs32
to
67229
https://tinyurl.com/2ptr86nz

Neil
https://tinyurl.com/2p9adsmr
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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E7111 in this collection is a GCR F1, Neil.
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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jwealleans wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:04 am E7111 in this collection is a GCR F1, Neil.
Thanks will move it to correct collection

Neil
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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I have added a new collection featuring J. Holden F3 (GER Class C32) 2-4-2T
The GER Class C32 was a class of fifty 2-4-2T steam locomotives designed by James Holden and built by the company's Stratford Works between 1892 and 1902. They all passed to the London and North Eastern Railway at the 1923 grouping and received the classification F3.
All had survived to pass to the LNER in 1923; the first retirement started in 1936 when 8090 was withdrawn.
Thirty-seven locomotives lasted long enough to be renumbered in the 1946 scheme; fifteen of them became the property of British Railways in 1948, but only three of them lasted long enough to receive their BR number.
Including this 1908 photo
1060 Brentwood with 10.30am Liverpool St-Chelmsford 17th May 1908
https://tinyurl.com/yycfsy9j
and this photo of 2 stored locos unknown location
8084 J.Holden F3 (GER Class C32) 2-4-2T) + 7477 Holden E4 (GER T26) 2-4-0
https://tinyurl.com/3ytey9m4
G.E.R. photos start here with
76 Stratford shed 17th May 1924
https://tinyurl.com/ybc6pr9v
LNER era starts here with
7147 Stratford 1947
https://tinyurl.com/4fznej92
to
8092 at Norwich
https://tinyurl.com/342nc4ze

Neil
https://tinyurl.com/yycfsy9j
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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I have added a new collection of photos featuring J.Holden J65 (GER Class E22) 0-6-0T
The GER Class S56 was a class of 0-6-0T steams designed by James Holden for the Great Eastern Railway. Together with some rebuilt examples of GER Class R24, they passed to the London and North Eastern Railway at the grouping in 1923, and received the LNER classification J69.
The Class S56 were a development of the Class R24, being almost identical, apart from higher boiler pressure and larger water tanks. Twenty were built in 1904 at Stratford Works.
All twenty passed to the LNER in 1923. Thirteen class J69 locomotives were lent to the War Department in October 1939, of which five had been built as Class S56. They were sold to the War Department in October 1940, where they were used on the Melbourne and Longmoor Military Railways. The remaining locomotives were renumbered 8617–8636 in order of construction; however gaps were left where the locomotives sold to the War Department would have been. At nationalisation in 1948, the remainder passed to British Railways, who added 60000 to their number. Post-war withdrawals started in 1958, and by 1962 all had been retired.

Including this photo of a smart looking
68211 unknown location
https://tinyurl.com/yzayrsas

LNER era photos start here with
7155
https://tinyurl.com/26vzd3er

B.R./Dept service era start here with
36 working for the departmental service
https://tinyurl.com/yvyx7fhr

Neil
https://tinyurl.com/yzayrsas
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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I have added some more new photos to the collection of J. Holden J67 & J69 (GER Class R24, R24 Rebuilt, & S56) 0-6-0T Locomotives
Including this photo of
68510 & Hill J20 64675 Stratford works
https://tinyurl.com/2c62tv7p
New photos start here
LNER era
https://tinyurl.com/yvaam2ju
to
B.R. era
https://tinyurl.com/ysk5z68x
to
https://tinyurl.com/ypaxrdxv

Neil
https://tinyurl.com/2c62tv7p
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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I have added a new collection of photos featuring J.Holden J66 (GER Class T18) 0-6-0T Locomotives
James Holden's first locomotive design for the GER was the Class T18 0-6-0T shunter (LNER Class J66). The first was built in May 1886, and by 1886 a total of fifty had been built in five batches. Although designed as shunting locomotives, No. 294 was fitted with a Westinghouse brake in July 1887 in an experiment to haul the Enfield suburban services. This was so successful that the last batch of ten locomotives were also fitted with Westinghouse brakes. The J66 proved a very successful design and was used as a basis for all future GER 0-6-0T locomotives (classes J65, J66, J67, J68, and J69). The only variations in the individual classes were due to the intended work. All survived into LNER ownership, and locomotives of the same basic design were still being built in 1923 at Stratford.
Many survived into B.R. ownership including this photo of
68374 Stratford 11th November 1951
https://tinyurl.com/46zmdd6x
GER/N.E./LNER era photos start here
https://tinyurl.com/2p8vfj7k
B.R. era photos start here
https://tinyurl.com/2wpnr8uz

Neil
https://tinyurl.com/46zmdd6x
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Re: James Holden locomotives of the G.E.R.

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what evidence is there that the 3rd picture is actually a GER loco in NER coilours?

Paul
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