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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by seacoaler » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:27 am

Following from last post ,shame about the thumb :) .....................tunnel mouth just behind bushes and I was surprised how new some of the buildings looked-
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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by ghisere andy » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:31 pm

I was lucky enough to stand by HMS RICHMOND in 1994 at Swan Hunters and spent 3 months exploring the river area. Whilst there I came across 2 books from the museum bookshop: "Newcastle and the River Tyne" - The Nostalgia Colection and "Newcastle's Railways" - Ian Allen. Both are by Ken Groundwater and contain some good detail of ES2s and branch tunnel portals etc.
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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by Rlangham » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:22 pm

Won this photo of ES1 26501 on eBay, at Heaton, and interestingly shows it pulling a train - I always thought that the locomotives travelled on their own from the Quayside Branch back to the sheds. Does anyone know how often they were used to pull trains when not working on the Quayside Branch?

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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by third-rail » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:44 pm

i think it must have been stabled there for some reason as those roads where not fitted with a third rail, i am sure that the only road that was fitted was one by the carriage works

http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/pho ... 7-7486_363

thought i had seen a picture it in the posts about flatrols

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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by Stamfordian » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:17 am

A website dealing with old OS maps may be able to help:
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html

It is somewhat fiddly to use, but on the other hand it does have, for example, the 1896 edition of the 1:500 map (ten feet to the mile, so it shows a lot of detail).

Putting 425950 and 564150 in the search box will land you on the Quayside

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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by PinzaC55 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:03 pm

Rlangham wrote:Won this photo of ES1 26501 on eBay, at Heaton, and interestingly shows it pulling a train - I always thought that the locomotives travelled on their own from the Quayside Branch back to the sheds. Does anyone know how often they were used to pull trains when not working on the Quayside Branch?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/B-W-photo-NER ... true&rt=nc
Since the locomotives were equipped for third rail it would make perfect sense to use them for trip workings at times when traffic was light on the Quayside branch (eg Sunday) and provided the drivers had sufficient route knowledge.

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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by seacoaler » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:06 am

Number panels from Quayside loco 26501 found in pub garden , remarkably bright and shiny -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-21742168

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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by PinzaC55 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:00 pm

seacoaler wrote:Number panels from Quayside loco 26501 found in pub garden , remarkably bright and shiny -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-21742168
My god! :shock: :shock: :shock:

The owner is going to be rich very soon.

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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by lar1976 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:13 am

And the other panel with North Eastern crest used to lurk against a wall in a nearby model railway club.

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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by Rlangham » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:57 pm

Any idea what happened to it?
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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by lar1976 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:27 pm

This is going back more than 10 years, but I believe at one point via this forum that it was listed on Ebay, it had some wood up against it hiding and I did try to get my father to purchase it but nobody from recollection knew who owned it.

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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by PinzaC55 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:32 am

Interesting photo's here, particularly of the French "ES1" loco http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index. ... ics/page-4

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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by Rlangham » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:58 am

Nice one, thanks Pinza - also reminded me of the video footage of them operating! Maybe one day I'll see No 1 in action....
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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by billdonald » Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:08 pm

PinzaC55 wrote:
Rlangham wrote:Won this photo of ES1 26501 on eBay, at Heaton, and interestingly shows it pulling a train - I always thought that the locomotives travelled on their own from the Quayside Branch back to the sheds. Does anyone know how often they were used to pull trains when not working on the Quayside Branch?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/B-W-photo-NER ... true&rt=nc
Since the locomotives were equipped for third rail it would make perfect sense to use them for trip workings at times when traffic was light on the Quayside branch (eg Sunday) and provided the drivers had sufficient route knowledge.
I've no idea and I'd be interested to hear on what basis you make this statement. To the best of my knowledge these locomotives were never used for anything other than the line they were designed for - that is, the Newcastle Quayside branch.

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Re: Newcastle Quayside Branch

Post by billdonald » Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:25 pm

third-rail wrote:i think it must have been stabled there for some reason as those roads where not fitted with a third rail, i am sure that the only road that was fitted was one by the carriage works

http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/pho ... 7-7486_363

thought i had seen a picture it in the posts about flatrols
There were three locations in the Heaton MPD area that were equipped with conductor rails. The first as you say was by the carriage works and ran from Heaton East junction to the west end of Walkergate station. This was the Down Loop and served as standage for electric stock to or from Walkergate Carriage Works. The other two electrified lines were known as the Heaton Independents. These ran from Heaton East junction to Benton Bank where they joined the ECML. Although designated up and down, they were separated by a number of lines as they meandered their way through Heaton Carriage Sidings.

Incidentally, that NRM photo claims to be circa 1930 - based on the gauge of the conductor rail, this photo dates from 1936 onwards.

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