Saint Johnstoun's thread - projects at the Kinnoull Shops.
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Re: Saint Johnstoun's thread - projects at the Kinnoull Shop
I had not forgotten about HE1506, the Grand Daddy of them all. I await photos and other details and you can guarantee it will appear in due course too. Can anybody out there help with a pic of 1506?
I will need to apply some genetic engineering to create HE1506 though!
I will need to apply some genetic engineering to create HE1506 though!
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Re: Saint Johnstoun's thread - projects at the Kinnoull Shop
Colin Mountford "The Private Railways of County Durham" page 43 has a RHS front three-quarter view.
As to genetic engineering, it looks like a till-roll and styrene sheet job. As to boiler mountings, your guess would be better than mine, but it shouldn't be beyond the mind of man. My own bodged approach to the utilitarian dome might well be a bit of plastic tube and some judiciously shaped milliput... The chimney appears slightly flared, which may complicate matters unless someone already produces commercially a passably similar one.
EDIT: There are also a couple of colour pictures on Durham Mining Museum's website (http://www.dmm.org.uk/railway/lm13-000.htm) - a front and a rear threeequarter view, both RHS, the front one may well be the same as the b and w in Mountford's book. I'm off to see if I can find a LHS view.
No joy on the LHS. However:
- Colin Mountford's "The Bowes Railway" has at page 101 an almost straight-on RHS photo.
- Leading dimensions are given by comparison with the austerity tanks in a letter from Mountford to the Industrial Railway Society - it is one among several at this location:(http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/26/Letters_28.htm)
- A perhaps helpful resume of the origins of the austerity tanks is on the Kent and East Sussex Rly website at http://www.kesr.org.uk/stock-register/s ... usterities
And I reckon that's about the best I can do pro tem
auldreekie
As to genetic engineering, it looks like a till-roll and styrene sheet job. As to boiler mountings, your guess would be better than mine, but it shouldn't be beyond the mind of man. My own bodged approach to the utilitarian dome might well be a bit of plastic tube and some judiciously shaped milliput... The chimney appears slightly flared, which may complicate matters unless someone already produces commercially a passably similar one.
EDIT: There are also a couple of colour pictures on Durham Mining Museum's website (http://www.dmm.org.uk/railway/lm13-000.htm) - a front and a rear threeequarter view, both RHS, the front one may well be the same as the b and w in Mountford's book. I'm off to see if I can find a LHS view.
No joy on the LHS. However:
- Colin Mountford's "The Bowes Railway" has at page 101 an almost straight-on RHS photo.
- Leading dimensions are given by comparison with the austerity tanks in a letter from Mountford to the Industrial Railway Society - it is one among several at this location:(http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/26/Letters_28.htm)
- A perhaps helpful resume of the origins of the austerity tanks is on the Kent and East Sussex Rly website at http://www.kesr.org.uk/stock-register/s ... usterities
And I reckon that's about the best I can do pro tem
auldreekie
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thanks to Auld Reekie I've managed to create a draft drawing of Hunslet 1506 which I append here. More photos and information are coming my way so eventually a very accurate drawing will be created and an 'Austerity' butchered to get a model.
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Glad to have been of service. And impressed with the rate of progress.
One point (and you will no doubt be more up to speed than me on this): you might need to be certain that you've got the horizontal bracing behind the buffer-beams right. From many years ago I seem to remember that this started relatively flimsy (or non-existent) and got beefed up over the years as "improvements" were introduced.
auldreekie
One point (and you will no doubt be more up to speed than me on this): you might need to be certain that you've got the horizontal bracing behind the buffer-beams right. From many years ago I seem to remember that this started relatively flimsy (or non-existent) and got beefed up over the years as "improvements" were introduced.
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Up to the Austerities there were single gussets between the frames and the buffer beams, but after a few rough shunts double gussets were fitted, expressly to new locos delivered after 1950 and on locos returned to Hunslets for repair. The J94s never received this modification, only those in Industrial use.
Have just attacked another body this morning and fitted a Giesl ejector. It has been sprayed black (needs another coat) and will be finished off as one of the NCB NE locos.
Have just attacked another body this morning and fitted a Giesl ejector. It has been sprayed black (needs another coat) and will be finished off as one of the NCB NE locos.
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Progress with Hunslet 5016. I thought I would have to use tube for the boiler etc. but found an old Hornby Jinty body in my bits box - selective cutting has produced most of the parts needed - these all still need to be trimmed to fit the modified lower body off the Austerity.
A new cab front will have to be made from scratch, the dome hole filled in and I have a suitable whitemetal dome to replace it. As for chimneys I have managed to source same from 247 developments.- Saint Johnstoun
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The rest of the parts arrived yesterday to create Hunslet 1506 and an immediate problem arose, in that the motor would not fit in its original location without fouling the boiler top. There were two options - try to locate turned 90 degrees in its original location but here it was found to foul the side tanks, so I came up with the solution below. This may be applicable to other uses of the Austerity chassis!
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Re: Saint Johnstoun's thread - projects at the Kinnoull Shop
Have you tried running the chassis with the motor in that position? Looks like a good 'fix' for your problem.
Brian
Anything weird or unusual will catch my interest, be it an express or locomotive
I'm also drawn to the commemorative, let's hope Bachmann will produce 6165 Valour.
Anything weird or unusual will catch my interest, be it an express or locomotive
I'm also drawn to the commemorative, let's hope Bachmann will produce 6165 Valour.
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The chassis has been tested and it runs fine. Leaves room for a good lot of weight in the rest of the boiler area.
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latest progress - ready for some body filler. Incidentally, this loco was registered for running on the LNER and later BR!
More filler required and then final tweaking of the cab eaves.
More filler required and then final tweaking of the cab eaves.
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Re: Saint Johnstoun's thread - projects at the Kinnoull Shop
HE1506 nearly there apart from a few handrail details and transfers. I will also add works and LNER licence plates.
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Looks splendid already.
That MAY teach me to interfere!
auldreekie
That MAY teach me to interfere!
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What next? I have a Barclay 0-4-0ST kit to do and then the 0-6-0 Fireless.
Then back to bigger (LNER) projects for the winter nights!
In the meantime - the whole Austerity story is shown here.
Then back to bigger (LNER) projects for the winter nights!
In the meantime - the whole Austerity story is shown here.
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Very tidy, a rugid looking bunch of work horses there. Now what would the collective name be for a group be, a herd of hunslets maybe....
oOo
Brian
oOo
Brian
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Brian
Garage Hobbit!!
Modelling in 00 on my heritage line, very GCR inspired
Brian
Garage Hobbit!!
Modelling in 00 on my heritage line, very GCR inspired
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Re: Saint Johnstoun's thread - projects at the Kinnoull Shop
Once more: that's great.
auldreekie
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